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 Posted: Sat Nov 8th, 2008 05:06 pm

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    It sounds like 3 tap wood knocking and loo- oot/whooo ooop variations are good locator calls to see if there is anything within hearing range. What is the best general, non-intimidating locator call to use that will not send out the wrong message to something much larger with superior night vision than you? Also, what are the prime hours to get a response? I am just getting into this, and feel like this may be the fastest way to get jump started on an area. I feel like this may be "classified" information, and I understand that, but it seems like more than a few folks on this forum can "speak the language".

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 Posted: Sat Nov 8th, 2008 10:35 pm

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I've hooted and got responses from a REALLY big owl last summer.  We wood knocked and got nothing. 

Then I whistled to them and as we left heard a twig snap behind us.  Last two weeks, heard 4 taps, pause, 4 more taps, pause, 3 taps then silence. 

Same day as the taps, different location, heard a huge tree go down, asked hubby if he heard it?  He thought it was an "armadillo"?  :P   I laughed as we vacated the area.......

Good luck, sounds as though you are off to a great start, woohoo!

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 Posted: Mon Nov 10th, 2008 12:15 am

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I tend to do the  " whooop  " sound  but I make sure it comes out with a soft tone to it  ( if that makes sense ) .   

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 Posted: Mon Nov 10th, 2008 01:22 am

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Thanks for the tips sunflower and cryptoseeker. I am going to do this, as soon as next weekend and likely by myself, so I dont want to charge in and do something overly agressive. Sounds like I need me a big million candle power light on hand to exit stage left if need be.

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 Posted: Mon Nov 10th, 2008 12:46 pm

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Yeah , I would get a light of some sorts  so you can see your way in and out .  

You will do just fine and as I always tell people  " listen to your inner voice "   , it wont let you down  .           ............ Carolann :)



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 Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 06:54 pm

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I have roughly determined that the tree knocks are used at times like a warning signal of; "Be alert! Something different/strange is in the immediate area." The knocks also seem to happen more often during the day light hours, but I have heard them also at night, just not as often. I believe they do this type of activity during the day as a sort of assurance as to their locations. Sort of a security measure knowing that "So-and-so" is still in their respective location.

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 Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 08:44 pm

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Bear,

After I pee'd on a possible marker I heard 1 knock..it was about 300 yrds away and over a hill. I looked that way and couldnt even come close to seeing that far. I also looked up in the tree's and no good. the leaves cover the entire forest floor. I would think that if it was a booger...he would have had to be very close to see me do it...and to make it that distance in such short time...I would hav heard the leaves crunching...but like I say..im new to this...would love your imput.

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 Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 10:14 pm

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BF does not actively have to see you to know that you are there. They are attuned to everything going on around them, such as birds, squirrels, and other indigenous wildlife. Mayhap's, the knock was a response to something that he could not determine or identify, such as another BF, which would have elicited an answer knock in return. This is why I said they do most of their knocking during the daytime, as they seem to not want to give their position away that readily. You have to remember, once they have bedded down or "forted up" they do not like to have to move over any large distance, as they recognize that during the day, they are susceptible to exposure.

When one walks into their environment blue jays, crows, squirrels, and other wildlife gives away your presence, which is normally a action not recognized by humans, as they just think they are entering the forest with normal sounds vocalizing around them, but if you understand and realize, most of these vocalizations are warnings, instinctively given to alert other wildlife of their species, that a intruder has entered the forest. BF, you had better know, has already "picked" up on this action and uses it to it's advantage. That is why I have always declared, there is a difference between walking into a wooded area and "becoming" one with the environment. You almost have to "flow" with the ecosystem instead of "barging" into the woods. This is hard to learn and develop, but with patience and much practice, this can be accomplished.

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Thanks crypto, DB, and froggy for the sound advice and observations. I have been thinking an awful lot lately about the times I had heard this knocking, but just put it off thinking some joker was putting together a deer stand in the area I was heading to, and veered off another way to get away from the racket. I cant place where or when, but I know its happened, and that annoys me that I cant remember where. The only place for sure I know for a fact I was hearing something really weird around here was on a weekend trotlining trip to NW Arkansas with some buddies, and I kept hearing something that souded like infrequent loud non-woodpecker hammering way up a high wooded ridge across the river. I asked my buddy if he knew what was going on up there, and he said there isnt anything up he knew of that way for a long ways, not even roads. This was for sure during the day. Probably just another joker putting up a deer stand in the heat of August. :cool: I sure wish I knew then what I know now. Would have paid a lot more attention around the fire at night, for sure.

I know my brother got knocked at and twig snapped right behind him off and on all day during his bizzarre day of trout fishing that lake in Montana. He just thought if he ignored "the bear" it would go away. I guess them bears just got bolder and bolder, lost all of their flight instincts, and grew opposable thumbs too.


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