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Posted: Fri Jul 4th, 2008 04:10 am |
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Official Statement: Comments about the Recent Alleged Sightings in Catskill, NY
After consulting with the newly formed board of directors of Squatchdetective.com, it is significant that I, Steve Kulls founder and CEO of Squatchdetective.com, bring forth some pertinent facts involved in the events surrounding alleged sightings in or near Catskill, NY. On Friday, June 13th, 2008 I was contacted by the CEO of Searching for Bigfoot, Inc. in regards to an alleged habitation in Catskill, NY only some seventy miles from my home. I immediately contacted fellow researcher and Vice President of Media Relations Becky Sawyer, and traveled to the location where we spoke with the residents.
During our four hour visit, we did hear some footfalls, via a parabolic microphone and observed shadows in the woods immediately behind the residence. We heard what appeared to be wood knocking as well. Given that with the fears and concerns of the witnesses to these alleged events, I reported back to Tom Biscardi as requested and advised him with what we experienced that night would definitely warrant further investigation. At that time I deployed a motion sensored camera, in an area certain to catch activity based upon the witnesses testimony. It is imperative that I explain that the witnesses were adamant that the alleged creatures were eating their pig's food, often leaving some of the food on a tree stump in front of the pen.
We returned to the site again on June 20th, 2008 after a week of speaking with the witnesses of more alleged encounters, and took a different, less invasive approach, which if the events reported to us the previous week had occurred, we would have witnessed something ourselves. Nothing happened with the exception of noting a skunk and a possum in a tree despite one witness insisting it was there, and that she could "feel it watching her."
A review of a thermal scan revealed nothing at that time. A review of the trail cam, revealed an oddity, which turned out to be just shadow, as it was also too far away to trip the sensor. Therefore we had an area they were reporting activity during the previous week, which the camera proved otherwise. A better survey of the property revealed that a highway bridge approximately a mile away, was responsible for making the wood-knocking sound, when a vehicles tire hit a certain part of the bridge just right, making a very loud, resonant pop. We did find one oddity, in a matted down area of grass close to where they had reported activity the previous week. The only conclusion we could make, was that it was not made by a known animal that habituates the area but could not rule out man-made causes. At that time I reported again back to Tom Biscardi as requested and told him of the unfortunate news. His response was that he was committed after promising the witnesses he would visit the site.
Despite the lack of further evidence and my follow up report, Searching For Bigfoot, Inc. released a press report and still put a call up for a media response to the site. On June 26th, 2008, Becky Sawyer and I picked up Tom Biscardi from the airport and responded to the scene, where the team had arrived earlier in the day and deployed infrared motion picture cameras. The only things the camera picked up that night was a very large raccoon eating the hog feed on the tree stump in front of the pen. And when it departed it left the food behind on the stump. No one had experienced anything that evening by the team
The next afternoon all the equipment was removed after the two papers had taken their stories and all Squatchdetective.com personnel departed for their homes.
To Squatchdetective.com personnel it was clear that the events surrounding the alleged sightings could mostly be explained by known animals, and or light trickery. I cannot take away what some of the things the witnesses told us, however, it was clear to me that this apparently was not a habituation scenario, that the press has been led to believe.
On July 1st, 2008 SFBI CEO Tom Biscardi appeared on Fox News where he stated, that, "Activity was going on as we speak." and, "That we caught some images." I would like make it to very clear that the aboves statements were not entirely accurate, and misleading.
The images caught were that of a raccoon, and the alleged activity there was most likely attributed to the apprehension of the witnesses to perhaps a former legitimate sighting.
It is my firm and prudent stand that I and my company, Squatchdetective.com, will stand for the truth, each and every time out. These are the raw naked facts behind the events of the past three weeks. This should quell any rumors, myths or misnomers that I or my organization is a puppet of anyone else. This company from it's first inception always stated we would tell it like it is. We will not veer from this path.
Steve Kulls
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Posted: Fri Jul 4th, 2008 10:46 am |
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Thank you Becky, ma'am, and Steve Kulls for this statement, as it takes true, honest, and dedicated individuals to come forward in such a fashion. I already had no problem with your work and if you had not mentioned it, I wouldn't have known that there was ever a question about what was really happening. It took real fortitude to present this and actually you didn't have to. My estimation of you and Mr. Kulls just went up a notch or two.
You both are welcome at my campfire anytime.
Thanks again
Bear
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Thank you Banshee, it's nice to know there are still people out there who who want to know the truth. And if your ever up this way (Ny) you are more than welcome at our campfire.
Now, I recieved a (to me ) disturbing letter questioning my loyalty towards the no kill policy that I have stood firm upon for over 8 years now. It is as follows( the name of the sender I with held):
"Becky...
Over the past few weeks there has been a shift toward pro kill rather than no kill...numerous folks including myself have begun to wonder where folks stand...especially since the SD "Jim" show with DW...during which there appeared to be a consensus that "sasquatchery" needs a voucher specimen...most no kill folks including myself are against that POV, and were astonished to see it promoted.
The special show with Tom Biscardi, Bob Gimlin and surprise guest Bob Heronimous..though chic and fashionable...was unfortunate...enabling the "bushwhacking" of Bob Gimlin, a heart patient further damaged folks perception of SD and it's sentiment.
Remember our visit a few weeks before the show aired...where...you asked my thoughts about Jim and his area...I agreed Jim, is in an active area and suggested he contact Dr. Alton Higgins of TBRC, since Alton is less than an hour away. I also advised Jim should avoid MABRC, if he wanted to protect his area from encroachment and publicity. Imagine my surprise...SD having DW as a guest host. Regional habituators and no kill respectful researchers are very familiar with MABRC invasive tactics, and were stunned a respected group/show like SD helped MABRC promote their agenda.
I'm not being confrontational or judgemental...just stating the current sentiment among the "no kill" habituation folks...too many groups appear to be "mining the miners"...BFRO and MABRC are among the worst offenders...JMHO
Tom Biscardi's media circus theatrics, bluster and bravado are not helping matters, either...JMHO
Your wonderful images of the "lil feet" have touched many hearts...are you pro kill...please say it ain't so...JMHO
In the final analysis we are known by the company we keep and the full measure of our actions and efforts, not polished bluster and bull(bleep)...JMHO"
The person who wrote this is a member here.
Like I had stated on my web site...I am of the old ways, I hunt only for food. Not for the sport of it or the quest for the trophy. As for Mr.Kulls he also is no-kill, and we cannot control who call us and asks us for help on a case, or participate in a broadcast.
Thank You Alabama Bigfoot Forum for letting me speak my peace. Becky Sawyer
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Posted: Fri Jul 4th, 2008 07:11 pm |
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Not defending the content of the letter sent to you, I just think the author wanted you to publicly state where you stood on the issue, to clarify your personal position. I hate emails and the written word because of the various interpretations that people can and do twist around to their advantage. I do know that the letter was sent with the intention of making you aware, if you did not already know, what the silent mainstream of the community was making of the issue, thus giving you a opportunity to declare your true, honest intentions publicly. It was sent as a "heads up" only.
Too many use statements and appearances of innocence to their own advantage and will twist them to make people look guilty when they are honestly sincere. Most of these type people have other agenda's but a number of people will make honest mistakes with their own interpretations and this causes confusion and discord, whether intentionally or innocently. In my humble opinion, I think that is why that email was sent. There are several groups within this community that willingly play upon the innocence of their membership, telling them that they are working for the good of the BF while in the background, are only feeding their own greedy agenda, all without allowing the honest, independent thinkers of their group, who are left totally in the dark, to defend their loyalty to the group in public fashion. This allows the ones who have an agenda to remain upon the sidelines and to watch the battle ensue without them getting their hands dirty. Remember, in the game of chess, the pawns are the ones that make the first move and they are mostly sacrificed while protecting the royalty.
Thanks again ma'am for the statement and your reply and I hope this will help clear up any misunderstanding.
Bear
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Posted: Fri Jul 4th, 2008 08:11 pm |
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Good afternoon Folks....
I wrote the email posted here...
Steve, Becky and I have discussed the issues set forth in the email at length over the phone...concern about their no kill stance is resolved as far as I am concerned.
live and let live...
ole bub and the dawgs
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Posted: Fri Jul 4th, 2008 09:00 pm |
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Since the time I posted the above letter......WE, meaning Ole Bub, steve, and myself have resolved this issue. It will never come to light again. I also realize that I may have posted it in too much haste, and I am sincerely sorry. We all become extremely defensive when our honor and integrity becomes the focus of question.
Becky Sawyer
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Posted: Fri Jul 4th, 2008 09:20 pm |
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The No-Kill verses Pro-Kill issue is becoming more and more an issue of division among researchers. Some are having to make choices they really don't want to make.
It seems to me that those that are Pro-Kill think that those that are No-Kill are equal to a tree hugger are something. They seem to think that every deer we see is a Bambi and every chipmonk is named Alvin..LOL
Let me assure the Pro-Kill researchers..that we are not a bunch of tree hugging hippies or something. I still hunt and fish and will continue to do so until I get unable to do so. I don't shoot anything I won't eat.
If I thought for one minute that these creatures were nothing but your average wildlife running around in the woods like a deer or a coyote I would not have a problem with anyone talking about shooting one ( if it is done in a respectful manner and with some degree of professionalism ). Saying that you would shoot one of these creatures off its' mothers tit, is none of the above. This is were I do have a problem.
I have in the past not spoken out about other research groups. I find that all it does is bring more discord among researchers and then all a website becomes is a place to argue the issue.
I for one ..don't have time for all that crap. I don't want to hear or see it.
If there are those that don't agree with me..then just let me go my merry way. Don't come here or go posting elsewhere saying I am or any member of the forum is crazy, a liar or a hoaxer and calling this forum the liars forum.
I am not naming any names..and to me..just talking about this is bordering on violating the forum rules. Yes the rules apply to me also. I don't just make up the rules as I go.
I know for a fact that some of the Pro-Kill groups have made an effort to disrupt this forum several times. Most of this is handled in the background and most members never see what is going on.
The most recent attempt to disrupt was the use of false names and anonymous IP addresses. One of these groups even boasted about using the "anonymous" IP addresses on their forum..in the open.
So..why are the lines being drawn???.because these arrogant asses are forcing the issue.
Quoting a line from "Oh Brother" "is you is, or is you isn't"
That is the question. If you can not look though a scope and put the crosshairs between the eyes of one of the creatures and pull the trigger yourself..then how can you say you are Pro-Kill. It is alright..as long as someone else does it, don't fit here.
"is you is, or is you isn't"
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Posted: Fri Jul 4th, 2008 09:37 pm |
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Mike...and the Alabama Bigfoot Forum Folks...
I apologize for any angst or aggravation I may have caused you or this fine forum...
My intent was to privately respond to a webjam inquiry...hoping to avoid a public response on webjam. We had a civilized productive discussion this morning and the matter is reconciled in a spirit of kindred fellowship.
Some folks here and elsewhere have noticed an "ill" wind in the air...many of us are concerned for the welfare of researchers, habituators and the "ancient peoples".
I'm reminded of Shasta's by line..."if your gonna be stupid...ya better be tough"...well said...JMHO
live and let live...
Steve Summar, Sheba and Rocky
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I am sorry if I came across as pointing fingers at anyone in the above group. I was not.
I choose to post this at this time because I think it might help others understand just what is going on in the background.
A simple misunderstanding of words in the atmosphere that many websites and forums are having to operate in can turn the whole site into a squabble.
Why is this happening? The answers are in my above post. There are those out there that do not want to see any other website or forum grow. They don't want you sharing information openly and they hate anyone that stands up to them and tells them differently than the way they want it to be.
You will never see them saying they were wrong about anything. They use their new members to do their dirty work for them. This way they always seem to be clean. The new folks join these groups because they read what the members say about one another. They can't pat themselves on the back enough. It doesn't take an old dog long to see whose tail is wagging. The new folks are a different matter. They read what these folks are saying ..all this wonderful stuff about this or that group and they fall for the bait..hook -line-and sinker.
Usually when the new folks decide that they would like to join this or that group..it is then that they discover that there is a membership fee.
It all about the money!
There is no membership fee here and never will be as long as I am able to run this site. This is my gift to all of you. Freely I give and I ask you to freely pass it on.
Like Dixie Banshee said..there is no price tag on a Bigfoot.
Mike (watch1)
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I'm a pro kill and have always been that way for 10 or more so years. If by any chance that one is hit with a Semi, killed and was able to be studied, then it should be a no kill policy... One should be enough...
I also believe that anyone can be either pro or non.. Both have good points. But we know that Pro kill will win this argument because science demands a body... Sorry to say....
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Belle wrote: I'm a pro kill and have always been that way for 10 or more so years. If by any chance that one is hit with a Semi, killed and was able to be studied, then it should be a no kill policy... One should be enough...
I also believe that anyone can be either pro or non.. Both have good points. But we know that Pro kill will win this argument because science demands a body... Sorry to say....
Belle
I like a person that puts it all out in the open as to how they stand. I would rather have you state your position than say you are NO-Kill and then find out later you are a big poster in a Pro kill forum.
I don't like wolves in sheep's clothing. You may find the company here mighty dry as we are a NO-Kill site. I think the posting rules pretty much makes it clear where we stand.
You are welcome here until we (me and the forum members) detect that you are trying to be disruptive to the forum. One of the above posts should explain why I take this stand. Other folks started drawing the lines on the Kill/No Kill. Now..some of them might not like where those lines have gone to.
Most of the older members know that I control the delete key and I will use it on posts and members that do not follow the posting rules.
Every once in a while we get new members that I believe are here from other forums or groups with a personal agenda in mind. I hope this is not the case with you.
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Posted: Sat Jul 5th, 2008 02:49 am |
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watch1 wrote: Belle wrote: I'm a pro kill and have always been that way for 10 or more so years. If by any chance that one is hit with a Semi, killed and was able to be studied, then it should be a no kill policy... One should be enough...
I also believe that anyone can be either pro or non.. Both have good points. But we know that Pro kill will win this argument because science demands a body... Sorry to say....
Belle
I like a person that puts it all out in the open as to how they stand. I would rather have you state your position than say you are NO-Kill and then find out later you are a big poster in a Pro kill forum.
I don't like wolves in sheep's clothing. You may find the company here mighty dry as we are a NO-Kill site. I think the posting rules pretty much makes it clear where we stand.
You are welcome here until we (me and the forum members) detect that you are trying to be disruptive to the forum. One of the above posts should explain why I take this stand. Other folks started drawing the lines on the Kill/No Kill. Now..some of them might not like where those lines have gone to.
Most of the older members know that I control the delete key and I will use it on posts and members that do not follow the posting rules.
Every once in a while we get new members that I believe are here from other forums or groups with a personal agenda in mind. I hope this is not the case with you.
Mike (watch1)
I'm an up front person, Mike and most people will tell you that. I'm not a person who will just go along to get along, but by the same token, nor will I ram my ideas down someones throat. If I don't see and hear what others do, then I will state so.
If a person in research especially this field puts a claim out there, then I, like yourself hopefully would ask for some sort of evidence to back the claims that people put out there...
I know who controls the buttons around here. Lets hope that you don't find the need to delete me for something that other researchers and or Scientist would ask for or state.
And lets get something else straight here, Mike while we are being honest with each other...... Don't lump me in with people with agendas. I hate that...
Belle
edit to say... it would seem you have made up your mind already...
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Belle was not banned because he/she was Pro-Kill. When a person starts making statements about recordings that I know are the real deal and say they have had some expert run tests on those recordings and not give the name of this expert when asked I tend to get a little upset.
Just another one of the folks that want to come here and cause a problem.
Who gave Belle permission to run tests on a copyrighted sound file. How could she run a good test without having the original .wav file the recording was made in? I converted it to an MP3 file and posted it on the web.
All I have to say about it.
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add myself to the list as being pro kill...but not necissarily in the same vein as others..if a booger ever meets the front end of a kenworth on I90 west of murdo south dakota i want the body thouroghly examined (i am more interested in finally getting this animal classified as to where it belongs-ape family/monkey family/etc)...beyond that i do not support the assertion that a bounty should be levied on the head of BF and hunted down..simply cannot agree with that...my words its how i feel
PS: mike i do not know you nor do you know me, but you and the other members here make this a special place...i do not want it to change
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snooter
I agree with you. A body will tell us a lot. If I thought that the government didn't already have one and the scientist haven't already looked at one I would most likely be Pro-Kill myself. There have been stories of these creatures being shot accidently by someone thinking they were a bear.
The one that I was told about happened near here not that many years ago and when they got a close-up look at what they had shot they got real scared and covered it up. No telling how many times this has happened and covered up.
I said before that I understand both sides of the issue. I can agree to dis-agree and move on. There are more things to learn and a body will be produced in time and then we will have even more questions.
Until then..lets learn what we can about how they live. 
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Hello All,
Not trying to drag anyone or groups through the mud here by any means of the word. I am so relieved you stated and said what you have here for all to read. I think it sums things up very well Watch.
As many may know I do have a situation here where for many years I have worked in close contact with certain Forest People near me and dear to me. I also have worked with other Forest People around the USA. I been in some real Hairy situation but never not once did I think of harming one of these individuals. Most of the time I don't even carry a pocket knife in case I'm out there in the wood and need to dig a thorn out of my old carcass. If the more aggressive Forest People wanted me they would have taken me out a long time back. That is just the way I feel about it.
I am No Kill, No Harm!!!
I may come across as being very passionate and crude to others when taking a stand in this matter. But let it be known that just because some of us that first come on the scene new to this, get tangled up in the clutches of the True Monsters lurking out there, that it does not mean we are pro kill and pro harm. There are True Monster lurking in the shadows within this community waiting to snatch up the unsuspecting and carry them off in the dark. They are not our Forest People. I firmly believe by putting us old timers out there and helping to educate these young whipper snappers we can make a difference here within the community.
This is what I would like to see happen. I would like to see all the No Kill people start banning together and making a stand together. Lay aside our own differences, be they what ever cause of Johnny Jump Up not getting along with Ole Merry Go Around and make more of these forums like you have here to better educate the newbies to this field. We No Killers need to start embracing these new comers and trying to help them instead of turning them away at the door step. Because trust me there is always going to be that True Monster ready to snatch them up.
Now the so called Pro Killers have their spies that come haunting our forums and websites fishing for that little blue gill in our pond that may not know the real worm from that rubber one at first nibble. Why could we not do the same and set our own spies to haunting their forums and websites? If we did and noted a new face there, we could reach out and possibly direct these little blue gill's they have to the right creek so they could hide or swim away from those old rubber worms.
Brother's and Sister's we need to stand strong and stand long together here. I for one am with Mike I'm tired of all the nonsense that is going on. Let's offer people a comfortable family friendly place to come to where we can share with one another and stick our necks out without fear of get our heads chopped off.
I also have a forum group, it can be found in my profile. Anyone is more than welcome to join us there. We do have rules to abide by, but we don't charger you a thing, just a little of your time. Membership is always free. We try to be of help to others, same as you all try to be of help to others here. If you need assistance, there are people friendly and Forest People friendly folks there that would be willing to help in any way they can, be that going out in the field with you showing you the ropes, a special friend to chat with and talk out you worries with, or a shoulder to lean upon when your feeling down.
Remember it is not about us, it is all about the Forest People. So Ole Bub wake them Dawgs up, brew me some of that stand alone coffee and lets all get down to some real hunting. Sniffing out people that need our help in understanding what we really are dealing with out in our back yards and woods. The Ancient Ones.
Ole Bub is right, Live and Let Live.
Yours,
Jan
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I'll vouch for snotter as he and I have had some great conversations in the chat.
As far as placing spies in other forums, I'm against that. I look at it like this, I would never get anywhere on their forums, so why waste my time. If it was for reasoning between the pro/no kill crowd, then this would have already happened. Too much to be lost for reason to surface, sad to say. If others would spend more time researching as they do putting others down, then this community might get the recognition it deserves. I'm like Mike, I'm not stupid enough to think that the government does not already know about this creature, so why needlessly harvest a body, other then for sport or extortion.
We have never claimed that everything presented here is BF. I like a place that does not judge pictures and recordings so critically. It shows those that have been run off else where that this is a safe haven without ridicule. I've seen too many honest, sincere people driven off forums with good evidence . I thought that was what this was all about, sharing without malice. Every picture may not have a BF in it, but I'll be (bleep) if I will judge them like some authority figure. It should only be presented for each to judge and only form their personal opinion. I think a number of BF pictures show nothing but the person who is sticking their neck out there, believes they see something. I'm not going to be the one that bursts their bubble.
Just my opinion.
Bear
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Well, I'm not really on either side.......I've been in places where the bigfoot were not or did not seem that scary or dangerous....and then in Oklahoma....for some reason.......they just seem to be very dangerous......or from what I sense. Some people say that I have a sixth sense and I dont know what they are talking about.....I think everybody has a sixth sense........but people on fathers side that are distant to me say that I can feel t hings that other people cant......I just wish that I knew what that gift was. I think that I am rough around the edges and people and I believe these creatures can sense that. Hell you ask Shasta....shes had to lasso me many times to keep my mouth shut....lol.............but I tell you this....if at any time I felt threatened by one...and I am out and we are packing......I say shoot....for my own safety....but we all already know that shooting will not stop one dead in its tracks...........so I dont think that will do me any good.
The only place in Oklahoma that I did feel safe was Kiamichi mountains...dont ask me why. I never felt at once threatened at all....I have been alone horseback riding many times before.....of course never too far from camp...................and I've never had the experience to see one in person......but I know of one two occasions that I have heard them.......through alarm sounds once in the nineties...and another time that lasted all night...............I will never forget that night. I think they know who wants to hurt them and who doesnt. There is a blood that is thirsty that flows through peoples veins and they want vengeance. I do not know what family a bigfoot comes from..........but if can walk upright that sure does bother me........caus that forces me to think it might be of the human origin.
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Agreed Jim...
Our respectful no kill philosphy and the integrity of our honorable intentions, separate us from the worst offenders. Two wrongs have never been right...Sentiment like water...seeks it's own level...always defend the moral high ground...JMHO
Quoting my late Father..."those who don't trust...can't be trusted" conversely "son...when your hanging on by your fingernails...don't wave your arms"...RIP.
Jan's commentary is timely...until recently the divide and conquer, slash and burn tactics of some groups, media and individuals have been moderately effective by cyber-bullying, alienating and interfering with habituation/interaction projects, while disrupting respectful, passive interaction and observation, especially with new folks. Enough is enough.
The collective wisdom of this forum and the willingness to share that wisdom unselfishly is our strongest asset...JMHO
Helping promote the legacy of that collective wisdom is truly a profound honor...JMHO
I'm sadden to see Belle banned...I've been a cantankerous contrarian all my life, there is always room for respectful diversity of opinion. Many of us began this sojourn with blood in our eye...however decades of observation, contemplation and interaction have changed that blood to tears...it's called evolution...JMHO
Marc Footery will be on BTR Bigfoot Mystery Sunday, the 6th of July at 6PM CST, he has some wonderful experiences to share...a less windy Texican with a heart warmng story to tell.
Ya'll better have those phone batteries charged if'n ya talk with Miss Jan...Jim or Smiter...LOL
"If your gonna be stupid...you better be tough"
live and let live...
ole bub and the dawgs
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watch1
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Posted: Sat Jul 5th, 2008 04:32 pm |
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Cindyg
There is no question that we should be careful out there when out in the field researching. There is always the chance that we could run into something that is in a bad mood.
Have I taken a firearm with me while in the field? Yes I have ..at times. There are other things out there that are dangerous. Wild hogs, snakes, just to name a few.
If we continue to put ourselves in close proximity of these creatures with our research..there is always the danger that we can get ourselves in a dangerous situation. The use of a firearm would be a last resort for me. I would have to have a strong feeling that my own life or the lives of others with me are in real danger before I reach for a firearm.
The difference here is this. We are not out there with the purpose to kill one of these creatures. Some don't care about trying to get a photo, a sound recording, casting a footprint or any other proof that these creatures are out there. They are only interested in one thing and that is killing one of these creatures. This is where the lines are being drawn.
My big question is, why do those that are Pro-Kill want to treat the No-Kill folks like the enemy? Some of this may be because some of us have spoken out about the outcome of someone killing one of the creatures. What the outcome will be..is not the way they want the story to end and they don't like it and they don't want anyone telling them so.
There is no pot of gold at the feet of a dead Bigfoot.
I would also like to add that the idea of spying on other websites is not something I would covertly do. I do belong to a few other forums. I visit them from time to time. I have always used my nick (watch1) when joining them. I am not spying on them or joining them and signing up under some other name. If you don't want watch1 visiting your forum..please delete me from your users list and ban me.. I can not say that any nicer..LOL
While I was in the military I learned something about integrity. I discovered the true meaning of the word. It is more precious than gold and something to be desired. When someone says anything that questions my integrity.. that person needs to do that face to face.
Have I ever been wrong about things? Yes..many times..but I am man enough to say I was wrong if I was and will try to correct that mistake. I admire anyone that does the same.
Mike (watch1)
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Posted: Sat Jul 5th, 2008 06:08 pm |
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| I read all the above posts by Mike, Jim, Jan, Ole Bub, Snooter and Cindy G. I believe we can all agree on one important thing, that is, that we are all one big family here and for a family to remain strong we must respect one another and jealouly guard each other from all the wolves at the door. We've all seen that these wolves can and do come in sheep's clothing. Our greatest asset is our love and respect for one another and our willingness to do whatever we can to protect that. What Mike has created for us here is our sanctuary and the greatness that has grown from that is that the rabble rousers in the BF community are extremely jealous of our success. We are what all the others want to be. We are the calm, peaceful refuge in a giant whirlwind. Let's all embrace each others strength's. Together, we are a force to be reckoned with. ----TnC----
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watch1
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Posted: Sat Jul 5th, 2008 06:50 pm |
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I see that it didn't take Belle long to find another forum to post in.
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Did you expect anything else?
by Belle
The only reason for this adventure, was for the Sasquatch Detective to prove to the world that his people are the leading Researchers.. While I like many in that ORG, we knew that this would turn out to be nothing... To be honest, I never once thought that Steve was anyone's puppet... But I have said before in the open, many people in this field are trying to make a name for themselves. Why? It's anyone's guess.....
Posted on Jul 5, 2008, 1:06 AM
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Now I am wondering just who this "we" are.
"we knew that this would turn out to be nothing..."
I think that this shows everyone that what I said about this is true.
No point in continuing this any farther.
Mike (watch1)
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Henry.May08
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Posted: Sun Jul 6th, 2008 02:16 am |
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