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 Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 06:13 pm

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One of the skills it takes in the pursuit of the ancient ones, is the skill of observation. People born country and raised country often have better honed skills than others. No offense to the folks from the cities.

I have met many people of both genders that tell me there isn't fresh sign of big foot in the woods.  Many times others are saying this area is hot. Another thing I have noticed is people saying I didn't see anything. What is anything? No tracks of anything???? How could that be possible? There is always signs of something in the woods.

How observant are you? How much attention to details to you give?




 




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I agree with you OC.  Observation skills are super important when you are trying to locate these creatures.  I know when I directed  the TBRC I would conduct training classes for those who where not familiar with the woods and wildlife.  I would recomend tracking books for them to read, and suggested they learn how to identify trees and ther plant life in the forests.  At least where they were researching.

I remember one time I conducted a test while in one of our research areas.  I had painted a life size bigfoot on some plywood the colors were the same as bigfoot right down to the eyes.  I had sent everyone to areas to look for evidence and I returned to the truck before everyone else.  I had hidden the cut out in the bed of the truck.  I took the cut out and walked down a trail to the right of the road.  I placed it just off of the trail to where it could be seen from the truck.  It was leaning against a tree.

As everyone started heading back in I would stop them right by the trail and tell them we were being watched.  Their reactions were from panic stricken to OH MY.  I told them to look from where they were standing to see if they could spot the bigfoot.  There were 8  or 10 people there and only one out of them seen where the cut out was standing.  I probably would not have seen it myself because it blended so well with the tree.  I told them it was a test and walked down the trail to point out where it was at.  It proved a point to me and to them that one could be very close to you and you would never see it.  Just imagine how many times we have walked by one and never seen it.

There is always some kind of sign of wildlife in the woods.

I know wildlife in general can be very stealthy and blend in well with its surroundings.  Here is an example of what I mean.

Can you find the frog.  I nearly missed this little fella.

 

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I spy the frog.

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:) Me too. He blends in well took me a minute to spy him tho.



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Well if it was a killer frog, I would be dead. I even blew it up and still can't find it. For those that don't know I am terrible with pictures and finding the camoflauged. Give me an F and send me back to the beginning,lol.



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A trick I use to help me is look for the eyes. Or another possible body part. Looking for the eyes generally helps me find the blob/hidden picture.;)



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I see him. Another trick is to look for a pattern, shape, or reflective surface that doesn't seem to fit the surroundings.

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 I admire all of you for your sharp eyes. I still don't see the frog, I wish someone would circle the little rascal for me,lol. I hope this will show those who send me pictures and hope I will comment on what they have captured that I can be of no assistance,lol. I know there is something there but I just can't distinguish it. The Lord blessed me with phenomenal hearing and I guess that is why I record and am so very interested in sounds instead of pictures. I think the giants even know I can't see them and that might be why they like me.:)



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Here ya go.  I know I almost missed him while walking down the trail.  He was just hiding behind the little branches on the tree.  I think it is cool how the little line on the side of his head blends in so well with the cracks in the tree bark.

 

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Thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu! I see him now. I am telling you, I really stink at finding camoflauged critters,lol.



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I saw the frog, but to be honest, if you had not told me there was a frog there it would have taken some time of looking to find that there was a frog sitting on the tree. I guess it helps to know what you are looking for.



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I must say, If not for you mentioning it being there i would have overlooked it myself.

 

 

 

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It doesn't work with the pictures, but it works in the wild...Let your eyes unfocus.  It broadens your field of vision and you can notice odd color schemes that do not fit the rest of the land.  You will also notice more minute movements that will draw your attention, and your regained focus to the source of the movement.  Just a tip.



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Luke, good post.  I know when most people that deer hunt started hunting, they had a problem spotting deer because they were looking for the whole deer, not a part of a deer.  When they  begin to look for an eye, a horn, or a twitching ear, they begin to see deer.  Although I have never seen one, the same principle should work for BF-look for a part, not the whole being.

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This is a good thread. For Bigfoot sign, in particular, I think a huge part of people not observing the signs is that few people actually stop to consider something that doesn't make sense in the environment. If they do consider it, they tend to choose to ignore what they can't explain. I probably sound like a broken record because I bring this up so often, but for all the years I was collecting evidence in my mind that convinced me BF were out there, my friends were right there seeing the same things and dismissing them completely in their minds. It drove me crazy! Teepees, especially the small ones, are a great example of this. So many times I've stopped to look at one and my fellow hikers have said, "Yeah. I saw that. I guess it is weird, huh?" I would go nuts questioning the things: How did it get there? The sticks didn't fall that way. They don't come from the trees overhead! I don't know of any animal that does that. It's not likely a human was up here, but why would a human do that? Something had to have put that there. What and why? My friends just shrugged their shoulders and repeated, "I don't know. It's weird." When I'd bring it up later, they rarely remembered even seeing them. They didn't have an answer, so they dismissed the question (and most of these people were scientists, working in geology, hydrology, and biology!).

I think it's this tendency to dismiss without consideration anything that doesn't immediately make sense, even more than a lack of observation skills, that causes people to fail to recognize BF signs. There is a huge difference between those of us who ask the questions and those of us who don't.

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I agree with you dlaw. I have been out in the woods hunting since I was 8years old. We lived with the woods at our back door, an my mother an father would rather have me out there than down town getting into trouble.  As a result I learn early on on seeing thing others would not see or notice. I love to just set in the woods an observe everything around me. I have been called many times to help a friend or other to track a wounded deer. I do this because I do not want another animal suffer,because another hunter made a bad shot.



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Luke,  great info.

I would loove to go out researching with you my friend, you could teach me a lot, I am sure.

What are the names of some of the tracking books that you would reccommend for a former "city" person to read??   Any other favorite research books of yours that you would reccommend?



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thetruth-I think you just need to get into the woods and observe. It doesn't matter if it's an RFP hotspot ot not.  You will come to learn what is supposed to be there, and what is not "natural".  It may be leaves that are disturbed could be marks on a tree that you can or cannot attribute to a known animal.  Tracking is a hard skill to learn-I am not a very good tracker, but I do OK.  And observing is just not necessarily looking for tracks, there are other signs as well.  Deer hunters looks for "rubs" which are saplings or small trees where they have rubbed with their antlers-1st to take the velvet off, and then later as signs of aggression during the "rut" or breeding season.  Maybe you could get a hunter in your area to take you with him (or

her) when thye do pre-season scouting, and teach you.  Good luck.

 

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I always suggest the books of Tom Brown Jr.  His teachings on tracking mirror very much the teachings of my Papa.  So much so that when I began tracking again in the 90's, I began reading his books to help refresh my memory.  He has about a dozen books out there on various topics, from tracking to spirituality.  I would suggest starting with his "Field Guide to Nature Observation and Tracking."  You can pick it up for about $12 at most book stores or you can get a used copy on Amazon for $5 or so. 

The true key to learning about tracking is to first familiarize yourself with the local wildlife and any wildlife that may "season" in your area.  Then it is a matter of finding things that do not fit into the confines of the established activities of those animals.  Anything you find that you have a question about, photograph it, log it, document it.  Then present it to a trusted, experienced outdoorsman/tracker/researcher and let them tell you if it is something else.  There are plenty of us out there that were new at this too at one time and most of us are willing to help someone understand better.



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