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Posted: Mon Nov 3rd, 2008 04:23 am |
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In the chat room, we got to talking about tampering with formations made by BF, so I decided to post this story and the pics that back it up. I've posted these in the past, elsewhere, but this is for the benefit of everybody on the forum that hasn't seen them before.
The story behind them is this:
There is an area that I used to research frequently in a very desolate and isolated wildlife management area in Mississippi, only a couple miles from the Indian Mounds we visited during the October outing to Alabama (where we did the Friday night, October 24, Campfire Shadows broadcast), not too far from my home (which was also in a desolate and isolated location).
There is a dead-end road that goes down into the woods, past an eerie looking pond with a few game food plots around it, winds through more woods and ends at a parking area for hunters. It is open for camping at the pond and the parking area but NOBODY ever camped there or hung out drinking beer or anything..... Go figure..... In dozens and dozens of trips down there, I only ever saw one other person in that area, and he was a game warden who had noticed my tire tracks going down the road and had come to investigate. He advised me that that was not an area that I would want to hang around in for very long, that there were other areas where the hunting was lots better.......
The first time I went there, I found the place after hearing a story of spring turkey hunters being scared out of the woods there. I found where the hunters had used "Bright Eyes" (reflective markers) to mark their way to their 'setups'. I followed the trails of Bright Eyes back into the woods and saw some formations and such, and decided to come back and do more investigating there. Bo was with me, and while in the woods, we both relieved ourselves, Bo several times of course.
When I came back a couple of days later, the trail had been destroyed. Trees snapped off, saplings uprooted and thrown across the trail, other trees pushed down across the trail, etc.
Here is a shot of the beginning of the turkey hunters' trail where it starts into the woods. The trail passed right between the two small trees that have been snapped off and bent over towards each other, effectively blocking it.
It was close to dusk, so I decided to do a couple of calls, but I got no answer. I sat there listening until it got darker, then suddenly the woods got dead quiet, and Bo decided that it was time to go..... NOW!!!! But I stayed a few minutes longer. I probably stayed there longer than I should have, but nothing happened. Poor Bo was hunkered down in the floorboard.
The next day my son came down for a visit, and we decided to go back down there. Everything was normal as we drove past the pond, but when we got back in the woods and were approaching the parking area, there were several trees snapped off or shoved down across the road. And these weren't little trees. They were all at least 8" in diameter. The attached photo is of my son standing beside the largest of them: a sweetgum tree that's still OVER A FOOT THICK where it was snapped off around 7ft above ground level. The snapped off part is laying across the road.
What kind of strength did it take to twist this tree off like this??? The story will continue in the next frame.
Another view of the same twist. Note that the tree is still at least a foot in diameter where it was twisted off about 7 feet above ground level!!! Think about the beast that could do a feat like this.......
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Posted: Mon Nov 3rd, 2008 04:36 am |
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All right! The preceeding pics were taken on June 17, 2001. A couple of weeks later, on the weekend of June30 - July 1, 2001, some researchers and I went back into that area. We called in the area, and again, got no answer, but after a few minutes, the woods went quiet and we all got the overwhelming feeling of being in grave danger, so we left.
We came back later, and someone got the idea that we all ought to pee on that large broken off sweetgum tree. So we did; four of us watered it thoroughly. I think Bo even got a shot at it....LOL.
I came back the following Friday night, July 6, 2001 and this is what I found. Go back up and look at the "Before" pic with my son in it, then look at these closely. In some of them you can even see bite marks.
Here are some closeup shots:
The photo of the trail that was destroyed, plus the HUGE twist, and then the subsequent rage that was displayed when we desecrated the twist, gives you a pretty good idea of how a territorial BF reacts when someone messes with his territory and his handiwork within that territory.
The strength and rage proven by this display is further evidence that boogers are not sweet, cuddly, gentle forest creatures to be trifled with.
I'm not saying they are all dangerous, but I AM saying that the Alpha Male in any group is not to be taken lightly until he gets to know you, and even then, you need to never forget what he can do if you mess up. And I believe there are some of them that will never accept you in their territory.
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Posted: Mon Nov 3rd, 2008 07:01 am |
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| I was there....that was one creepy place for sure!!! The starburst formation was truely awsome!!! What else could possibily do a tree like that? I remember the pond and wasn't there something about a white dog or do I have that mixed up with another place? I remember hoping not to see this white dog but can't remember the rest of the story lol Great post Coonbo!!!
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Posted: Mon Nov 3rd, 2008 12:31 pm |
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Awesome story and pictures Coonbo......and scary. Thanks for sharing them with us once more. It's hard to comprehend the power it must have taken to snap that huge tree, and the extreme anger associated with the destruction of the tree after ya'll "watered" it is phenomenal. Definitely seems like the boogers did not want you there....
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Posted: Mon Nov 3rd, 2008 01:19 pm |
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Great story and pics Coonbo ! I have always made sure not to fiddle around with anything that looks like the big guy has made it .
When I was a kid my grandmother and I were always in the woods and whenever we would come up on shelters, markers and teepee formations she would let it be known to leave it alone and to not touch or destroy it .
One of her famous sayings was , be respectful of whats in the woods and it will respect you !
Thanks for sharing this Coonbo . .......... Carolann 
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Posted: Mon Nov 3rd, 2008 02:40 pm |
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Great photo's Coonbo!
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Robroy
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Posted: Mon Nov 3rd, 2008 03:25 pm |
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WOW! They are extremely powerful. Not a force that any man I know would want to stand toe to toe. Great story and pics, Coonbo! I do believe the key word here is as Crypto's grandmother stated "Respect"!
Thanks for sharing Coonbo!
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Posted: Mon Nov 3rd, 2008 04:31 pm |
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Shasta, you are correct. That pond IS where the we would see the big white dog. And that dog always had the creepiest look in its eyes. And if you remember, we used to comment on how it would appear and disappear at various places around that pond. That area down there always gave me the willies. But I continued to research down there, alone most of the time.
Michael (primatebait) and I had a wild night recording down there once. I actually saw a booger in his night vision scope for the first time in my life. We were hearing and recording vocalizations to the southeast of the pond. Every once-in-a-while I would pan around the pond and the little field to the north of it with the scope. When the vocalizations were going the loudest, I panned around again and there, about 30 yards from the truck, to the north, was a booger squatted down behind a bush watching us. When it realized I was watching it, it stood up and, in one quick leap, disappeared back into the vegetation. It was about 6 1/2 to 7 ft tall.
That is the night that, about a half mile away from there, we were recording some awesome vocalizations, and in his Bionic Ear, primatebait could hear something coming through the brush towards us. I couldn't hear it. He was wanting to get outta there REALLY bad. We got back in the truck and rolled up the windows on the side towards the noise and he kept the Bionic Ear antenna/mic out the window on the opposite side of the truck, but pointed back over the roof in the direction of the approaching noise. (Gotta give him credit for having the nerves to keep recording even when he thought he was in grave danger.)
When he said that the noise was VERY close to the truck, I clicked on a 3 Million candle power spotlight........ There it was!!!!...... We were being charged!!!!!..........
By an armadillo that was trying to get the heck outta Dodge, going straight away from the vocalizations that were coming from only about 50 yards back in the woods to the west of us. The 'dillo went under the front of the truck, on the driver's side, came out on primatebait's side, and disappeared to the east, haulin' butt as best it could away from the boogers. Through those Bionic Ears, that 'dillo sounded like a booger coming after us....   Last edited on Mon Nov 3rd, 2008 04:34 pm by Catamount
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Posted: Mon Nov 3rd, 2008 08:05 pm |
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Coonbo,
First thank you for the unbelievable amount of information and insight you provide. To us "newbies" it is priceless.
Now, can you please help me out here? Respectfully, is the "starburst" twist in the last photos the same 8ft. stump that your son was standing in front of in the first photos?
Not questioning your story, just wanted clarification.
thanks again.
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watch1
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Posted: Mon Nov 3rd, 2008 08:16 pm |
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I was trying to figure that out myself. Is the tree stump all busted up or is that what was left of the broke off piece?
Was that the whole top laying there or just a piece of it?
Either way..looks like it was highly ticked off. I wouldn't want it ticked at me..LOL
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Catamount
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Posted: Tue Nov 4th, 2008 02:31 am |
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Hamrfoot and Mike, Yes, the burst apart tree is the exact same 7' to 8' tall snag or stump that my son is standing beside in the previous pics. It amazed us that the booger had the strength to twist off a tree that large and shove it down across the road, Then after we peed on the snag that remained standing, it tore it to shreds (the last 3 pics). That is the most awesome display of strength I have ever personally found. Also, if you look very carefully at pic #4,, you can see that he also tore up the broken off log that was laying on the ground and extended across the road.
If you had video or even audio of the tantrum that booger threw in the process of doing that, it would curl your hair probably. Actually it would probably make you end up with a Don King hairdo (don't know who Don King is? Do a google search on him and you'll see...LOL).
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Posted: Tue Nov 4th, 2008 03:19 am |
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| Don King!!!! Good example lol
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Posted: Tue Nov 4th, 2008 03:29 am |
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That is an amazing display of the power these creatures have. It also explains some of the knocking I have heard in the past.
I need a bigger stick!
Thanks for posting this.
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Posted: Tue Nov 4th, 2008 05:12 am |
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Catamount-I guess if you pee on BF's markers, he gets pi--ed off.
Can't imagine how powerful one would have to be to do this. Do you think this was doen by an avg. BF in a rage or an x-lg one just being himself??
Next time you try this, hang a game cam so we can see what happens, or better yet, just hang around and tell us what happens. I'll bet Bo won't be hanging with you if you do. lol
Good post.
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Posted: Tue Nov 4th, 2008 05:47 am |
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Wow! That's both awe-inspiring and deeply disturbing! Maybe you found the legendary 20-foot Bigfoot! Seriously, it's mind-boggling to imagine a primate with the strength to do that, not to mention the apparent rage to do that.
Wonder what would have happened if you'd gone in there and shoved over some deadfall trees of your own instead of peeing on his? I reckon it wouldn't have been a happy ending...
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Posted: Tue Nov 4th, 2008 03:06 pm |
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Thanks for the clarification.
In a word "AWESOME"
to me, even though no one saw or heard this happen this is one of the very best pieces of evidence I have ever seen. Think about it for a minute folks..........
this is either a hoax, which I DO NOT believe it is, or a display of superhuman strength that absolutely proves that there is something out there that is capable of doing things well beyond what a human could do.
thanks again.
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Posted: Wed Nov 5th, 2008 09:04 pm |
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| Well now coonbo that is a great post!! WOW does not cover it..awsome comes close !! I have an all new respect for the BF and their home range! Thanks for posting that and it will make me think twice before releaving myself on a tree in their part of the woods!
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Posted: Thu Nov 6th, 2008 12:42 am |
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Wow, awesome pics and story Coonbo, thanks for sharing. I hope I can find something as spectacular as this sometime in the field.
This thread makes me wonder what I might find this weekend when I return to an area I've been researching in upstate NY. I found a number of unusual stick formations and rock stacks there that I think could be possible markers and on my last trip I took apart several of these possible markers to see if they would be rebuilt the next time I went back. I didn't pee on anything though so I don't know if I'll find something similiar to what you found or not but I'll soon find out.
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Posted: Thu Nov 6th, 2008 01:40 am |
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All i can say in that cituation is "Exit stage right" It brings in to question how they persieve our activities when we are out wondering their territory!! Thanks for the story CoonBo.
Thanks, Shane
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Posted: Thu Nov 6th, 2008 07:27 am |
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| note to self..9mm aint enuff..seriously...you guys have some cajones peeing on a booger marking....i will not be going in that area on any expidition without a laws rocket and gen IV nitey vision..no way no how...boogers 1.....me 0...last i heard anyhow southern boogers have a taste for yankees..mean ol suckers they can be..good read...(bleep) finest reports on this site anywhere on the net
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Posted: Mon Nov 10th, 2008 12:29 am |
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well, like I said in another post i found certain areas w/ tree markings...two of wich looked like the markings where done in a similar fashion...a tree break w/ a branch found close by wedged in a tree w/ a "V" . the second of these I found I left my scent on (pee'd). the only reson I did this was to come back and see if anything was changed,altered,destroyed LOL. then I know im on to something. this marker was only 20 yrds from the road. Just as i was done I heard one single tree knock. it was downhill from me..maybe 300 yrds ...whaever made it couldn't have seen me pee on it..but it could have ran downhill to knock. I beleive it was not a BF but cant say fr sure. I ain't gonna make a habbit of this but just tryin to rule out it being BF or not.
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Posted: Mon Nov 10th, 2008 02:07 pm |
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Thank you, for sharing this information, truly fascinating! I have a thought, question, and please forgive if this has been discussed before. What do you suppose the reaction differences would be if it were a female relieving herself on or near an object belonging to the big guy? I understand that animals can and do react differently to feminine secretions and scents, which leads me to ponder, in what ways different and could or would it result in further aggression or perhaps even protectiveness, "ownership" towards the scent? Hmmmmmm, the things that make you go "hmmmm".
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Posted: Mon Nov 10th, 2008 06:44 pm |
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| When i was actively researching 6yrs ago. I'd leave my mark. Got results also. I'm going to have to dig out some old pics but when i went to visit fireflies at her old place she showed me an X formation. They weren't pushed over trees they were placed there it was up against a larger tree. Fireflies and I looked where they were stuck in the ground by moving the leaves and some dirt out of the way. Whatever stuck it there had to be big and strong. No human or it would take several men to do that. Well I left my mark around it. The next weekend she called and told me that it was down. It had rained but not hard enough to make it collapse. Another area where fireflies researched I had to go and i wasn't far in the woods from the road. Later that night we went back and there was a tree bow across from the area i went pointing in the direction where i had left my mark. That tree bow wasn't there earlier that day. There's more but basically I've gotten some kind of response when I mark hehehehehe
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Posted: Mon Nov 10th, 2008 08:32 pm |
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Oh Yeah! Kedema was definitely our lucky charm when we were researching. When she would "mark" an area or a formation, we would always get activity there later. Women are a definite asset on an outing. They can often draw in the curious boogers when us guys can't get much of a response out of them.
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Posted: Mon Nov 10th, 2008 11:10 pm |
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Stunning.  Add in a creepy white dog, and well... not sure I'd want to go back alone, and definately not alone more than 4 feet from the vehicle.
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Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 03:53 am |
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Great photos and story Coonbo. I can honestly say that I have never seen a reaction like that and that was also verified with previous footage. Good job! Now as far as Kelly goes, they didn't like her type of gifting,lol. I left many a little puddle and I didn't see anything different. Maybe I should have left it on a tree. I think that is what Kelly does. Please don't ask her how she does it because she WILL tell you in complete detail,LOL.
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Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 04:53 am |
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| Kellys gifted in tree marking Fireflies lolol
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