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Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 04:17 am |
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After getting the permission to post this recording from the owner of this copyrighted recording, here it is.
First, the story behind this recording and how and why it was Back in May 2008, several researchers from several southern states got together for a weekend outing at a private location near the Talladega National Forest.
A few calls where made after dark and several researchers heard several vocal replies to one of the calls.
The area is somewhat rocky with large hills and steep wooded valleys.
Because of this, several groups of researchers went out in different
locations so that a larger area could be covered in an attempt to locate these creatures.
One of these groups did locate one. Three of the five people with them saw one of these creatures as it stood up and looked at them after being hid in the brush near them.
I tell this because this gives us eye witnesses to seeing one of these
creatures near the same area that this recording was made.
Now for the events that took place when the recording was made:
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May 29, 2008 approximately 10:00 p.m.
A friend and I had decided to go coon hunting just to let the dogs run. We arrived around 8:00 p.m.and turned the dogs loose. The dogs had been out for about an hour or so when they got out of ear shot. We decided to go look for them and split up; he went one way, I went the other. I came up on some other guys out riding and stop and talked to them.
While we were talking, I heard one of the dogs in the distance,
dismissed myself from the conversation, and went on my way to find the dog.
I drove to the top of a hill that over looks a valley; approximately 3/4
miles from a housing community below. I could hear dogs barking from the housing area but heard nothing where I was standing. After about five minutes, I thought about having a hearing device in the truck and retrieved it. It's a Spy On combination recorder with amplifier (a small dish with earphones). I put the earphones on and turned the amplifier on. I listened for a few minutes before hearing what I thought was a growl.
Concerned at how close the growl sounded, I uncovered one of my ears to listen without the device. Without it, I
heard nothing. Not sure what I was hearing, I turned on the recorder
and continued to listen to sounds coming from the brush and thicket
nearby. Shortly after capturing the sounds, they stopped. I waited for several more minutes hoping to capture more on the recording but heard nothing else.
I called my friend on his cell phone and told him one of the dogs was in this area and we met back at one of the main roads. I had him listen to the recording and asked his opinion. He immediately said it sounded like somebody trying to talk. We called "Name withheld" (who was supposed to have been there but was unable to make it). When I told him about the recording, he came onto the lease so he too could listen to it. After he listened to it, he asked me about what time had this event taken place. Having answered about 10:00 p.m., he told me the following story:
He arrived home around 10:00 (to the housing community just below where I was on the mountain with the listening device). All of his dogs were barking and excited and that's when he noticed his bird dog was "on point" toward the hill I was on at the time.
We found our dogs approximately two miles away from this location about two hours later.
If anybody has ever heard anything similar to this sound or can identify it, please respond. All input is welcomed.
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Below you will see a graph of the recording and the audio spectrum of the recording done by DB Donlon who was nice enough to look and listen to this recording for us.
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watch1
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Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 04:28 pm |
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I remind everyone again that this recording is copyrighted.
We welcome any and all comments about this recording.
Mike (watch1)
Edited to add:
Note: You must be registered and logged on to download this recording.
Sorry about this. This is just the way the software treats attachments.
Attachment: KTtalkA.mp3 (Downloaded 239 times) Last edited on Fri Jun 20th, 2008 03:44 am by watch1
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tennesseecherokee
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Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 06:00 pm |
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| Mike, Thanks for posting this new recording. I listened to it a couple of times and it made the hair on my arms stand on end. Dang, that is really a spooky bunch of sounds! I can hear it trying to speak the "O" vowel. Sounds similar to the sound of that thing in the Predator movie. Maybe it's good that this feller was at a distance. Had it been right beside him he might have had "The Big One", as Redd Foxx used to say. Sounds like the bird dog had this thing made. Very throaty sounds! --Again, thanks-------TnC-------------------------
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Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 10:22 pm |
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Well ,Mike I got one word for you,WOW!!!! This is a very odd sound and it seem's to coming from something very very large and not to happy. The dog's may have interupted a hunt or a nap.? Great job to all who where in on this. 
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Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 11:01 pm |
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| I agree with DWELLS. **WOW**
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Posted: Thu Jun 19th, 2008 12:04 am |
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| !!!
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Posted: Thu Jun 19th, 2008 04:41 am |
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My first impression was also of the Predator movies! As if it's trying to say, "what do you want?" Whatever it is, it's definitely WHOA.
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Catamount
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Posted: Thu Jun 19th, 2008 03:05 pm |
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This is the real deal. I have actually SEEN a BF making this exact noise. See this link to my report: http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=577.
And I've heard it another time at another location about 40 miles from there. And have heard reports of it from another person.
My observation is that it's a grumble of frustration or anger, much the same as a human mumbling under their breath when frustrated, annoyed or mad.
And I can tell you this: It can be quite unpleasant being the one that caused the BF to grumble like this.
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DanielBoone
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Posted: Thu Jun 19th, 2008 07:42 pm |
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WOW !!! Mr. Mike thats almost terrifying !!!
catamount - good report!
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Dixie Banshee
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Posted: Thu Jun 19th, 2008 09:48 pm |
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I want to see if others have noticed this about the recording.
Go to the following website and listen to the recording called Sierra Growl.
http://www.oregonbigfoot.com/sounds.php
Then listen to this new recording.
I will give a hint at what I'm trying to show here: The Sierra growl is off the CD called the Sierra recordings and it was recorded in California. The new recording was taped in Alabama about 3 weeks ago.
They sound similar, but I noticed something right off the bat. I would like to see if others have noticed it. You can hear it better if you have the whole Sierra CD, but you can also hear it by just comparing these two recordings.
I would like to see if others have caught this.
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watch1
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Posted: Thu Jun 19th, 2008 10:27 pm |
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Well
That is very interesting. Listening to the sound file of the Sierra Growl (the middle part) and the Alabama recording, I hear very simular sounds and the both of them sound as if they could have been made by the same creature. The tone seems to be very much the same..to me.
Maybe we can get some of the sound experts to look at this and compare the 2 "voices" and see how they compare with each other.
Mike (watch1)
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Catamount
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Posted: Thu Jun 19th, 2008 11:17 pm |
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Well, I know one difference for sure, and you know what it is, DB. But I'm keepin' my redneck trap shut and give other folks a chance to figure it out.
Another thing, those of you who've heard me describe the grumbling/growling I've heard, will remember that I described it as sounding similar to Taz, the Tazmanian Devil from the Warner Bros. cartoon. When you listen to this new recording you can hear what I mean.
Imagine hearing this sound out in your yard, interspersed with chest-shaking, window-rattling screams, and seeing the booger doing it... Or being on a tree stand in the middle of nowhere, a good ways from your truck and hearing that sound coming from two different locations, and one is approaching you through the thick woods, and then having rocks, sticks and even saplings hurled at you, and trying to get down and get to the truck, but the thing cuts you off from your vehicle......
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Posted: Thu Jun 19th, 2008 11:44 pm |
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The sounds are in fact very similar to some of the growling (or snarling) sounds on portions of the Serria Sounds. And they are uniquely similar to some of the sounds made by a reclusive forest primate that was apparently talking to itself as he passed my sound dish and continued to the back of my truck camper very early one morning in the Ouachita Mountains a few years ago. There was no question about what was making the sounds as his image through the condensate covered windows could be seen seen well enough to determine is was uniformly dark colored, nearly four feet wide at the shoulders, and towering over eight tall.
As I have mentioned before on this and other forums, these animals can and do talk in a mixture of somewhat ape like sounds and what sounds like some type of Native American dialect. And, as the one I heard did, they can speak in a very subdued voice. And, when they are speaking in a subdued manner, their vocalizations are no doubt within the normal range and pitch of human speech.
It is my firm belief that the sounds recorded by this very astute and capable researcher near the Talladega National Forest are, like those recorded by Ron Morehead and Alan Berry, the voices of one of the animals we try to study. It is also my firm belief that the sounds he recorded, will at sometime in the future, be confirmed as having been made by our subject animals.
Thanks to all the good folks involved in getting these sounds posted.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 02:10 am |
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I wonder this is what my friend was talking about when he said he heard "the sound kinda like in that movie Predator" right behind him as he cleared the bluffline BEHIND him really loud (that is when the dog ran away) he turned around with rifle in hand, but there was nothing there....
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 06:03 pm |
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| I listened to the Sierra Growls recording and to me it sounds as if that booger is a might more agitated. I can tell when that warbling sound starts--he is shaking his head violently and it ends with a little melodic whistle. Of course, these things aren't present in the Talladega recording. Also, I noticed that the Alabama recording sounds like a slow motion version of the Sierra recording.That's all my abused ears will allow me to hear.Thanks to Bear for for posting the Sierra recording and noting the similarities......Tennessee-------------
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 07:09 pm |
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TNC, you are one astute observer. The dialect is much slower then the Sierra recording. Maybe I put the listener to an disadvantage by only finding on the Internet a segment of the Sierra recordings, but you noticed what I was referring to.
The Bama recording has a regional dialect, in other words, it seems to communicate in a "drawl." Making it even simpler, it sounds like a Redneck BF compared to the Sierra recordings, which was taped in California. haha
This recording is so important in many ways when comparing the two. Several years back, certain people in the BF community expressed their concern that they did not believe that the creature in the Southern part of the United States was/could not be the same as the one in the PNW. There are even books written by people who have admittedly never seen any regional BF, that what the people in the South was seeing was a pongid ape. This preception started to change when foot print expert Jimmy Chilicutt, from Texas, examined several BF foot print castings from the collection of Dr. Jeff Meldrum. He declared that he found two exceptional castings that, to him, proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, that a large primate type hominid was roaming the landscape. One of the castings was from the PNW while another was from Georgia, a vast regional separation from each other. This new recording, which is being tested by audio experts, when compared with the Sierra recordings, is astounding in that the comparisons, startling sound, almost similar, yet the ramifications lead toward the same conclusions that Chilicutt found, in that the South basically has the same type of creature!
To me, this is amazing! Then when one notices the regional dialect, it is also bewildering in that this just opens up more questions about why this type of speech pattern coincides with the people from the Southern surroundings. Is this type pattern because of adaptation from listening to the local dictation or is it a regional hereditary trait?
Good job TNC!
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 07:25 pm |
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TNC
I agree with what you say about the recording. Seems the Alabama creature is more relaxed and not as agitated as the other recording.
I have noticed in the other recordings that I have recorded that I believe to be a Bigfoot mimicking voices of people that they have heard in the past, that they also spoke with a southern accent .. just as those people normally do in the south.
I have said that I believe that some of these creatures have grown use to being in close proximity with humans and watch humans more than most would dare imagine. They may have gotten to the point that they are somewhat passive to human presence, as long as they feel they have not been detected. If this is the case.. is it not possible for these creatures to become aware of the meaning of a few words and have understanding of these words..to a point.
Would I be going way overboard to say that maybe they have picked up a little of the southern accent and have their own "southern drawl" ?
It just seems that the more we learn about these creatures, the more we find differences in those that may be located in areas where they may come in contact with humans often and those that have little or no contact with humans, except on rare occasions.
It seems to me that those that may have more contact with humans are a little more "laid back" and relaxed when humans are near.
Just my observations and nothing scientific to base this on.
Mike (watch1)
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 07:53 pm |
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| Thank you Bear for those words of praise but I'm not too sure that I have anything that the rest of us doesn't have. I was raised doing alot of listening....primarily because I was taught The Good Lord gave us all two ears and only one mouth. In those days you dared not interrupt an adult speaking and the reward for that was being able to stay in their company and not shooed away with the rest of the children.The other reward was to learn from the elders. As a musician, my ears, much more than my eyes, enabled me to learn much faster and with a quicker grasp of intonation. I wonder, as you do, whether the slower dialect is due to heredity or to environmental factors...you know, hearing people speak. I think probably a little of both. There is no living specimen that I'm aware of, that escapes genetics..proven coincidentally, in Alabama at the Tuskegee Institute..by George Washington Carver.This Talledega recording deserves a place along with the best of evidence ...as proof of Sasquatch's existence. Thank you Bear for all your knowledge, dedication and willingness to help us who have much to learn..... TnC----------
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 08:03 pm |
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Bingo!!! Give those guys a cigar! I believe y'all are exactly right; the BF pick up the accent of those they hear talking a lot and they imitate the sounds that they hear us use repeatedly. And as they imitate the sounds, they inevitably pick up the cadence and accent.
I've heard them imitate me calling my dawgs, my dad and grandfather calling the cattle and hogs, DB's grandfather calling his cattle, and I once heard one humming in a higher pitched tone. Both of my grandmothers used to hum when doing chores or working and I believe that particular BF had been exposed to someone else doing the same.
And since even dogs learn the meaning of dozens of words and great apes have been proven to learn true language (although in the form of sign language), certainly BF can do the same, and with their apparent ability to articulate sounds much better than apes, they should be able to speak at least at a rudimentary level.
So when we hear folks say that they had heard BF speaking in NA dialects, we can probably believe it. Why shouldn't they? Especially in many parts of the country where that would be a very common language for them to hear on a regular basis. And, there's no reason to believe that they wouldn't teach and pass down language from one generation to the next, like we do. So that is another reason they would be speaking a NA dialect: they learned it long ago, before the white man over-ran the country. And in addition, there hasn't been a bunch of missionaries and Indian Agents trying to "re-educate" them and destroy their heritage, as the NA tribes have endured.
Heck, look at birds; parrots, cockatoos, mynas, and even crows can learn to speak and some of them know exactly what they are saying. My sister used to have a cockateel that would call the cats in her voice, then when the cats showed up, he would bark like crazy at them and scare them off. Then he would shriek and whistle and bob his head like crazy in his version of a laugh. That bird was scary smart.
We need to give the BF the credit they are due for their intelligence.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 08:11 pm |
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| Mike, All that you said makes a great deal of sense to me. True that boogers in the South are much closer to humans than say the ones that live in the Pacific Northwest. Some there may only occasionally run into humans because the human population densities are so low and there is a much broader expanse of wilderness. Here, in Alabama, they are very close.You spoke of the fact that they are watching and listening to us much more than we realize...I buy that too! We would really be freaked out if we knew just how many times this has happened. Their ability to remain hidden and at the same time be so close to us is amazing. They are truly the masters of stealth and concealment---- at one with their environments. I'll say this too...I think that they have learned some of our language simply by hearing our phrases and watching and remembering reactions to what we say and do. Lets just use a simple phrase for an example---If I were to holler to my son who is playing outside, "Come on in". I think that if the boogers heard this a couple times and watch my son come to the house, they eventually learn what that means. Do I think they understand a great deal of what we say??--No...but they are surely much more intelligent than we give them credit for. Thanks Mike. Great post! ----TnC--------------
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 04:42 am |
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| After listening to this recording a couple of times, I noticed the slower dialect from the Sierra sound recordings also. This was very interesting.Thanks for posting it.
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Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 07:53 pm |
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| We have all kinds of different sounds from this area, but the first time to get a good recording of something. We have heard voices before but didnt know for sure what was making them,but after listening to it and the serria sounds am pretty sure what making that sound, with Tal , Bear and Catamount have heard this too in the past, to me it points to there are differences in the RPF S by region but a lot of similars too.Just my thoughts.
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Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 07:07 am |
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| i have to confess RR told me the difference, i thought it was cause one was mad in the sierra call till i thought bout it then i caught on pretty quickly
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Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 02:31 pm |
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| I am new to BF and by no means claim to know anything about them. I have listened to that recording a lot. It is very interesting to me. But in my opinion it sounds like it is questioning itself. Kinda like humans do when they are upset and by themselves. Kinda ranting to theirself. Like doing something stupid and saying "Why did I do that that was stupid" Just my thoughts on it.
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Posted: Mon Jun 30th, 2008 04:46 pm |
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I just wanted to thank everyone for their imput on this recording. I guess it was a case of being in the right place at the right time.
One day the truth may come out about these "beings" , but I for one think they do ok by themselves, and think it would be a disservice to mankind for these creatures to be put on display somewhere, and gawked at.
After all we know they exist, what more do we need.
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Posted: Tue Jul 1st, 2008 02:08 am |
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| Hello Btylerk696 ! You sure did get a great recording. Are you trying to get any more recordings? I agree wholeheartedly that the RFP's are doing fine without outside interference and yes it would be a real shame to cage them and parade them around like the old carnival freak shows....................................... Take care ......TennesseeCherokee
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| i remember discussing the fact that these animals talk and my opinion was"no way they are dumb beasts and have no skills in any language".these rec |
