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Posted: Tue Apr 29th, 2008 06:30 pm |
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Some of the new folks may not have read the forums and discussions we have had about the RFP and folks hearing them talk.
I..by chance ..got a recording of what I believe was an RFP talking at around 3:00AM one night.
Than recording is at: http://www.alabamabigfoot.com/bigfoot/sounds/Talk5Oct2007Cut1.mp3
You can also listen to the other recordings we have made at: http://www.alabamabigfoot.com/bigfoot/reports/Recordings.html
I recently recieved an email about this recording:
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You may take this information as you like. I am a linguist, and I do have contact with the big guys/gals. A friend sent your link to recordings to me to ask me if I would break it down to phonetic syllables and maybe find the dialect. Keep in mind, it is for curiosity sake only because there’s not a (bleep)ed person out there on the research circuit who would pay it any mind at all. So…let us call it “for fun”.
Your Oct. 5th recording one was a very good and clear one. Unless you have Native Americans taking strolls in your woods at 3AM…then I’d say your recording is authentic. The speakers seemed comfortable with the language and spoke it fluently enough. I listened to it no less than ten times to make sure the syllables were correct. I cannot pick up the first speaker, yet…but will keep trying. The second speaker said this:
Bahn-chee-ka wah-nee-wa-woh-tah.
You can listen to the recording while reading this to verify the content. I will search for the correct dialect. I will send you what I find, if anything. I really enjoyed hearing the recording.
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Any ideas?
I have sent a recording of this to several Native American language websites with a request to let me know if anyone could identify the language, or..what was being said. I have yet to receieve any reply from any of them.
Several have said it sounds like Cherokee, Choctaw, Creek, Navaho and a few other NA language..but none are sure what it is and what was said.
Hopefully we will get more of this recorded in the future and it will help figure out what language we are dealing with.
Mike (watch1)
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Posted: Tue Apr 29th, 2008 10:21 pm |
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I look forward to the results of the languages. I bet you have several dialects brought together to make their own unique language.
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Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 01:13 am |
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 WOW,Mike thats Kool! I guess I can throw away my legal pad of writing that I have no idea what it says. I can hear what is written on the tape much clearer. I'll look in a few other places and see what i come up with.
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Posted: Thu May 1st, 2008 03:54 am |
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This is exciting! And how great is it to have a linguist involved in figuring out the recordings!
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Posted: Fri May 2nd, 2008 12:15 am |
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I wonder has anyone consider Salish? Not sure where to find a dictiionary to tranlate Salish.
This is so cool. Thanks Watch1!!! This is exciting for you.
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Posted: Mon Jun 16th, 2008 04:09 pm |
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MR. Mike - i dont know if this helps hopefully it does but
in Chickasaw
Owata - to hunt
Chee/Che/Chi - you
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Posted: Mon Jun 16th, 2008 07:06 pm |
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| DanielBoone, that is awesome. I hope more of these works can be translated.
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DanielBoone
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Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 12:26 am |
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but i think Drtimal, You might be right because im seeing alot of the same similarity
between - Cherokee, Choctaw, and some other languages,
like Mr.Mike has already mentioned so its hard to say right now.
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watch1
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Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 02:38 am |
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Well..this is a possibility. One may have been telling another that we are hunting them. It would go along with what has..as some say..been mimic-ed "Him and "wifes' name" hunting us".
Several things I would like to point out about the above.
1. As far as I know..those exact words have never been said by anyone that I know of..so ..this is not a mimic.
2. To refer to themselves as "us"..is amazing by itself.
3. To refer to me as "him" and call my wife by name and then state that we are "hunting" them "us"..goes beyond amazing.
Not a simple mimic here..but putting thought together in a logical form and then expressing it in speech..English..at that.
Something it maybe heard before?
Yes..very possible..but it added a few things like a name calling.
http://www.alabamabigfoot.com/bigfoot/sounds/WHATTHIS.mp3
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Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 03:16 am |
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It is amazing and should be consider enlightening to many.
I appreciate you sharing this with us. I had to be a giant step forward for you to share this.
I would love to know how many are afraid to come forward with what they have. Fear is such a powerful thing in this quest. It keeps many from sharing with others. The simple fear that they will not be believed or ridiculed by others wanting concrete proof of what they have experienced.
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DanielBoone
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Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 03:58 am |
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MR. MIKE ! YOU OPENED UP A WHOLE NEW PLAYING FIELD I HAD NO CLUE OF
THANKS ALOT!
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Robroy
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Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 04:12 am |
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| mr Boone I'm proud of you, keep searching!!
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DanielBoone
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Posted: Tue Nov 4th, 2008 03:49 am |
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watch1 wrote: Well..this is a possibility. One may have been telling another that we are hunting them. It would go along with what has..as some say..been mimic-ed "Him and "wifes' name" hunting us".
Several things I would like to point out about the above.
1. As far as I know..those exact words have never been said by anyone that I know of..so ..this is not a mimic.
2. To refer to themselves as "us"..is amazing by itself.
3. To refer to me as "him" and call my wife by name and then state that we are "hunting" them "us"..goes beyond amazing.
Not a simple mimic here..but putting thought together in a logical form and then expressing it in speech..English..at that.
Something it maybe heard before?
Yes..very possible..but it added a few things like a name calling.
http://www.alabamabigfoot.com/bigfoot/sounds/WHATTHIS.mp3
Mike (watch1)
Mr. mike could you sum this up in much simplier terms for my paper if you dont mind ?
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Posted: Tue Nov 4th, 2008 04:20 am |
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If this was a Bigfoot speaking/talking, then when they added the "name" to the words said...if what they said was just a mimic, it would appear to me that they "understood" that my wife was there "Ruby" and that we were looking for/ "hunting" them and they refered to themselves as "us" and they refered to me as "him".
"Him and Ruby hunting us" Note also that 5 words were used. I have recorded several things that only 5 words used. They may run the words together or chop them off..but 5 words is most common.
The other "Be nice Ver ron na" is an example of this. It was said as if it was 5 words. I have no idea who Verona is.
Anyway..this, seems to me, to show intelligence above the ability to simply mimic. Although the words said sound as if they were spoken by a certain person (sounds like a person I know) some of the words may have been said by that person..but not all that is "mimic-ed" was said by the Mimic-ed person.
Did I lose you..LOL
I think I confused myself.
"theres a cheeseburger in here" 5 words..sounded like me saying it. I had said those exact words..several weeks before that was recorded at 3:00 AM one morning.
Strange is not the word for it..LOL
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Posted: Tue Nov 4th, 2008 12:47 pm |
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| One word Mike.......Incredible!
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DanielBoone
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Posted: Wed Nov 5th, 2008 06:15 am |
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thanks
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Posted: Sat Nov 8th, 2008 11:52 pm |
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| When you first sent these to me quite a while ago, I also got the same impression of a very soft spoken voice saying "be nice Verona" or something similar? Could it possibly be saying Ba Ro Na....??
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Posted: Sun Nov 9th, 2008 01:37 am |
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It is possible. I have asked several folks to listen to the sounds and voices recorded and asked them what they thought they were saying. Strange thing about it,,seems some hear totally different from others.
I think some of that might be the freq. range of the sounds and the people that have listened may have hearing loss in some freq. areas. Whatever it is that causes the differences..it seems strange.
Do you have any idea what those words may mean?
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Posted: Sun Nov 9th, 2008 03:47 am |
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| No I don't have a clue.
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Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 06:51 pm |
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Running it through a Caddo translation, it sort of sounds like this....... I almost hate to say it.........translated it seems to be saying " Grandson quiet your mouth."
I am certainly no expert at languages. I created a language page on my website that is still void of any information. But here is the translator I used. It was months ago that I thought I found a translation so I may not have quoted it perfectly. Sorry I am finally getting back to this. The Caddoan were one of the oldest tribes going back 10 thousand years with a family tree that reaches across our nation, off shooting many other tribes. This may be a good place to start.
http://i.1asphost.com/caddo/intro2.asp
Last edited on Tue Nov 11th, 2008 07:12 pm by 7fireflies
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Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 10:54 pm |
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| Great find keep us posted if the translation is changed or updated.
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Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2008 02:20 am |
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That is just too cool 7ff! Keep up the good work!
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DanielBoone
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Posted: Tue Dec 9th, 2008 12:21 am |
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WOW !!! 7ff, i tried to translate it early if you've hadnt noticed, but i guess the great internet god shut the site down that you posted cause ive even searched that on google but the page would not come up but thanx for the great info keep it up if you need any help just ask
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Posted: Mon Dec 22nd, 2008 03:57 am |
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Pardon the new guy rehashing what I'm sure someone else has thought of and possibly even tired. BUT.... If it seems there is communication that may be at least similar to NA languages. Why not make recordings in more than one NA language making non-threatening/friendly statements directing them to food or something similar to begin to gain trust???? Makes sense that if they speak and understand it's a simple process of establishing trust and opening dialog....Sounds simple huh? Actually I think if language is understood they probably understand us more than we think but perhaps simply playing a recoding explaining something along the line of "we'll leave food (name a location)" of course you could always try "we come in peace"or "take me to your leader"..lol. ok. Serious now. Has this been tried? If so any luck?
I've wandered the net a bit reading on the subject and language keeps coming up and I'd assume if they speak it then they will also understand the same language. We simply need to find the correct language or one similar enough to survive the translation.
Ok. I"ll sit back and hush a bit now. Just my 2 cents for the night.
God bless you all and Merry Christmas btw. (I think that's a universal language)
Les
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Posted: Tue Dec 23rd, 2008 02:29 am |
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| I'm not an expert in Native American dialects in any way but to me it sounds like Cherokee and I kinda had the same question that Les had, has anybody tried playing a recording with an offering of peace or greetings to see if they get a response? This topic is very intrigueing to consider. I'm going to have to more research on the subject.
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