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Posted: Thu Apr 3rd, 2008 03:03 pm |
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I have read what I could find on infra sound and pheromones. I suspect both is used when the big guys choose to. I also wonder if this isn't why many lean to the paranormal end of the spectrum?
Because of their size and muscle structure, I can see where perhaps their vocal range is far different than ours.
Any thoughts?
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I, like most of you, I'm sure, have been long interested in the feeling of 'being watched' or other feelings of 'discomfort' reported by some indicating the possible presence of 'big'uns'. What is the cause? Certainly could be ultrasound - I don't know enough to counter that explanation. What I find most intriguing, though, is the possibility that it may be caused by pheromones.
My reason for this is that we have been told that pheromones will not cross species. If this phenomenon is, indeed, involved it could indicate a much closer relationship to the boogers than many would expect.
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I am a firm believer of infrasound. It is one of the most interesting and mysterious aspects of experiencing these beings. I have tried to understand the purpose of infrasound. Is it a form of communication between them? Is it used to lull us into malaise? What accounts for the different physical reactions on the effect to humans? Why does it affect some people while others seem oblivious to it?
Let me relate an experience we had with infrasound. The giants had been called up and were in sentinel mode, quiet, watching. Soon the infrasound began. It went on for almost an hour and we stayed to see what would happen even though we were inclined to leave. I felt chest pressure, a difficulty in breathing, almost like the onset of anxiety. One male researcher noticed he was delayed in reaction, his reflexes were not responding. He was overly relaxed for the situation as it was. Another female complained of a headache and ringing in her ears. Several others felt nothing. One female researcher was so affected she could not open the car door or close it after getting in, she simply lost function. We left the area and went up the road about a mile and repositioned ourselves. We heard vocals getting closer and closer, we were followed. Our adrenaline was high, yet two of our male researchers fell asleep even though they said they felt nothing earlier. None of us could believe they could sleep at a time like this but we have since come to understand how infrasound can affect us.
Other experiences have shown us that infrasound can be directional as well. In several instances, the infrasound seemed to be targeting one individual. When standing between the woods and the person, you could feel the force of it but when you moved, it went away. I have knelt down behind a car to get relief from infrasound, the vehicle blocked the energy of it. Getting inside the vehicle also works if you roll the windows up. One night, I was researching with a very large man who had provoked the giants and we were all blasted with infrasound and major stink. I got relief by standing behind him but it probably wasn't the wisest place to stand for the fact they were maddest at him. Another night and location, we squatted down and were relieved of the effects as it went right over our heads and straight to the target, a young man in our group.
I do believe the giants can emit infrasound and I do believe they can focus the direction and intensity. Eventhough we can't see it, hear it or smell it, it is a very real phenomenon. I would stake my reputation on it. Some say it is a natural fear or instinct kicking in. I believe we are reacting to what they are emitting and is not an issue of instinct. If it was the survival instinct that is spoke of then we would then feel the same effects from other wildlife as well which is not the case.
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Posted: Sat Apr 5th, 2008 03:21 pm |
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I have never experienced this in all the years that I have been living near them, but my son did once. He's 36 years old, & is a night person. He has never been afraid out in the woods after dark, & is out there often.
Late one afternoon, we decided to hide in a camper that we had parked out in the middle of an open pasture, & see if we could get a video of one that came by every day just before dark.
Right on time, we heard her coming, doing her nightbird whistle, & he watched with the nightvision until he saw her standing between two trees along a fence row. We froze & almost didn't breath, waiting for her to come out so we could get the video, but she didn't come out.
After a few seconds, she disappeared, & after a few more seconds, we heard her going down the fenceline to the south of us, & then turning & going through the woods behind us. Eventually, we thought that she had come out back on her trail, but just by a different route.
Disappointed, we gathered up our stuff & came back to the house, but when we got here, we realized that we didn't have the nightvision, so he went back to get it. In about half the time it should have taken him, he was back at the house, pale & out of breath. He said that he didn't know what had happened, but just as he got back to the camper, he had a sudden overwhelming feeling of fear. It was all he could do to make himself stay there long enough to get the nv & shut the camper door, before he ran back to the house as fast as he could.
I asked if he had seen or heard anything & he said "no", and he had no idea what caused it. He said he had never experienced anything like it in all his years roaming the woods at night.
After a while, he went back outside, & walked around, & said he never felt it again.
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Posted: Sat Apr 5th, 2008 04:47 pm |
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Great posts everyone! I don't know if I have ever been hit with infrasound, but I do not ignore my "sixth sense" when it says "LEAVE!". It is there for a REASON!
I have been a hunter all my life, and have seen animals who could not see, hear, or smell me go on alert for no reason. They would do this quite often as I was looking at them through my scope, just before the shot. Also if I stared at them for a while through my scope they would get nervous? ESP ?
If I am staring at something in my scope it has GOOD reason to be nervous!
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Posted: Sat Apr 5th, 2008 06:27 pm |
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| Amazing encounters everyone, which has me asking this question of myself. Do I really want to experience this, how would I react? The answer is "I have no idea." Some encounters have a similar reaction from people, at least from what I've read & heard so keeping a log of the past and present experiences would be helpful. That would give us all a place to report when it happens and then compare. If there are constants relating to the feelings and sounds, then we've gotten a little closer to figuring this out....maybe!
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Posted: Sat Apr 5th, 2008 06:57 pm |
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| Hello 7FF ! While I have never been the target of infrasound, I do believe , like you, in it's existence. It is a proven scientific fact. The first time I ever heard of this word, other than it's noted use by elephants, was in a history book on the Third Reich--during World War II . The Nazi's built huge generators and speakers to use on the battlefield against the Allies. Because it was developed late in the war,they never got to use this weapon--- along with the atomic bomb. They knew that if given the chance to use infrasound, they definitely could cause extreme headache, nausea,vomiting, confusion and loss of equilibrium. It is also a fact that infrasound is inaudible to the human ear but many other animals can hear it. Elephants use it to communicate with each other over very long distances.Canines can hear a portion of the sound spectrum of infrasound. While it is true that humans cannot hear that very low frequency--it does not mean that the sound waves do not affect us .-------------TnC---------------------------------------
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Posted: Sat Apr 5th, 2008 07:12 pm |
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Sunflower, I have been keeping a journal for about two years, & you are right, it is a really good idea. Sometimes I go back & read about things that I have totally forgotten, & it will help make sense out of something that has just happened.
As time passes, it is amazing how my opinions have changed & how much I have learned. So many things that I had heard & read & thought were facts have proven to be totally wrong.
I still get a chuckle when I hear somebody say that they are "solitary animals"!
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Posted: Mon Apr 7th, 2008 01:30 pm |
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The first time I ever encountered infrasound was when I was walking down to the lake. I had noticed a strong urine odor before I felt anything. I knew one was around but I couldn't find it. I believe he felt threatened because he realized I was aware of him. No one ever went into the woods on foot so I probably was a bit of a surprise. I encountered what many call the wall. It's invisible but you just can't go any farther forward. My dog sensed it too and parked herself in front of my feet so that I could not go forward. We turned around and went home. It varied from day to day how far I would get. Sometimes I would make it all the way to the lake and other times, barely into the woods. The urine odor was there off and on and it moved around. I often wondered what I would do if I encountered the wall on the return out but I never did.
When we researched in smaller teams of two or three, we would encounter it one in ten times but as the group got larger the more often it would occur. There is a deer lease south of my place that I research on. It is within walking distance. I have gone alone many times just me and the dogs. I had never encountered infrasound until I took some friends down there on foot. The lady that was in our group saw one in the trees swaying back and forth and pointed it out to the rest of us. It was some distance away but what else could it have been to be such a tall shape and moving in and out of the trees. On the way back, we began to smell them and began to experience the infrasound. My friends began to panic, these were not researchers by the way, and began walking faster and faster. I tried to calm them but they just wanted out of there. When we got off the deerlease and were on the pipeline going back to the house, we smelled them again hiding in the thick of the clearcut that ran parallel to the pipeline. Again they started walking faster. They never went with me again and decided that bigfoot research was not their cup of tea.
I am inclined to believe that infrasound is used as a warning. It is their discreet way of directing you away from the area. Most people that feel it don't know what it is but will honor their own feeling that danger must be present and leave quickly. It is an ultimately effective tool for one who wants to remain undiscovered.
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Posted: Mon Apr 7th, 2008 02:27 pm |
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The first time I experienced infrasound was from a set of subwoofer speakers, and a 10khz sine wave. The experience I had was one of awe. It was a feeling like you get when you get a cold chill, and the chill bumps that follows.
I found the following quotes entitled "The Watchmen" on a web page while researching infrasound. The site is about infrasound weapons, but I thought it's reference to animals fit this post.
"Infrasound clings to the ground, a phenomenon well known in the animal world. Female vocalizations and those of their young, take their traceable routes through the air. High pitched sounds are aerial in nature. This makes females and young natural targets for predators. Low pitched tones cling to the ground, being "guided" along the soil layers. Male vocalizations cannot be localized by predators. Male sounds "hug the ground", diffusing out from their source. Some males rumble the ground with voice and hooves. These are communications signals which they alone comprehend".
"The fact that the ground draws and guides low frequency tones is a remarkable gift to the animal kingdom, enhancing the survival of male leaders. When herds are attacked by predators, the males can continue to give guidance to their companions, while remaining completely "invisible" and elusive. Predators cannot locate the voices and rumblings of male leaders because their low pitched signals ar impossible to pinpoint. They are therefore also impossible to attack. Predators are often overtaken by the males who maintain their diffusive communications across and through the ground".
It is very possible that this is what the big guys use, not only to confuse, and surround, but also to direct the females, and young away from apparent danger.
I don't know if I have experienced infrasound in the great outdoors, but I have felt my "sixth sense warning" go off several times after feeling like I was being watched, or something was just not quite right, and I would get out of the area without question each time. Wonderful topic! H.F.
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Posted: Mon Apr 7th, 2008 03:12 pm |
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http://www.lowertheboom.org/trice/infrasound.htm
This probably shouldn't be posted here but it is full of info..
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Posted: Mon Apr 7th, 2008 04:20 pm |
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| Thank You Robroy ! I don't know why not ! This info is dead on and the best info posted yet on how infrasound effects the human body. Great information and examples--Thank You-------TennesseeCherokee------------
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This is a subject that I have thought about, yet I have never spent too much time considering. Does BF use some type of infrasound, or is it a form of ultrasound? Amazingly, there is a very strong possibility that it does, but which type? How did I come to this conclusion? By certain effects that appear to happen in correlation with the presence of BF.
One has to first understand what the word infrasound and ultrasound means.
Infrasound is sound with a frequency TOO LOW to be heard by the human ear. The study of such sound waves is sometimes referred to as infrasonics, covering sounds beneath the lowest limits of human hearing (16 hertz) down to 0.001 hertz. This frequency range is utilized by seismographs for monitoring earthquakes. Infrasound is characterized by an ability to cover long distances and get around obstacles with little dissipation.
Possibly the first observation of naturally occurring infrasound was in the aftermath of the Mt. Krakatoa eruption in 1883, when concussive acoustic waves circled the globe seven times or more and were recorded on barometers worldwide. Infrasound was also used by Allied forces in World War I to locate artillery; the frequency of the muzzle blast, from firing, was noticeably different than that produced by the explosion, allowing the two sources to be discriminated.
One of the pioneers in infrasonic research was French scientist Vladimir Gavreau, born in Russia as Vladimir Gavronsky. His interest in infrasonic waves first came about in his lab during the 1960s where he and his lab assistants experienced pain in the ear drums and shaking lab equipment, but no audible sound was picked up on his microphones. He concluded it was infrasound and soon got to work preparing tests in the labs.
Whales, elephants, hippopotamuses, rhinoceros, giraffes, okapi, and alligators are known to use infrasound to communicate over distances up to hundreds of miles, as in the case of the whale. It has also been suggested that migrating birds use naturally generated infrasound, from sources such as turbulent airflow over mountain ranges, as a navigational aid. Elephants, in particular, produce infrasound waves that travel through solid ground and are sensed by other herds using their feet.
Infrasound has been known to cause feelings of awe or fear in humans. Since it is not consciously perceived, it can make people feel vaguely that supernatural events are taking place.
Certain earthquake activities produce large and virtually insensate vertical displacements of the ground surface, in extreme instances amounting to a few feet per pulse. In this case, the ground becomes the surface of a drum, ringing out its deadly cadence at infrasonic pitch hours before the event. The ground undulates with infrasonic tones, an elasticity that eventually cracks under the heaving stress.
Ultralow pitch earthquake sounds are keenly felt by animals and sensitive humans. Quakes occur in distinct stages. Long before the final breaking release of built up earth tensions, there are numerous and succinct precursory shocks. Deep shocks produce strong infrasonic impulses up to the surface, the result of massive heaving ground strata. Certain animals actually can hear infrasonic precursors. Precursory shocks are silent, being inaudible in humans. Animals, however, react strongly to the sudden surface assault of infrasonic shocks by attempting escape from the area. Animals cannot locate the source and center of these infrasonic impulses, behaving in a pitiful display of circular frenzies. The careening motion of wild horses and other domestic animals indicates their fear and anxiety.
Certain animals employ infrasound as weaponry. It has been known that certain whales are able to stun their prey with powerful blasts of inaudible sounds. Called "gunshots", whales focus these powerful blasts at large squid and other fish to paralyze and catch them. In some instances, they have been known to burst their prey apart by tonal projection alone. Human experience with these inaudible blasts have been reported. The distress calls emitted by little beached whales was sufficient to push a veterinarian back several feet in the water. Others have experienced these pressure waves, reporting that their hands could not be brought close to the sinal area of small whales because of their inaudible acoustic projections.
The strong infrasonic impulse sensation flattens the body. It is as if one were struck with a solid invisible wall from which there is no escape. There are physiological effects as well. Anxiety, fear, extreme emotional distress, and mental incapacitation are all part of the unpleasant phenomenon. Notable among human exposures to quake-correlated infrasound is the precursory nausea which many report. This strong sensation leaves its more sensitive victims helpless. Unfortunately, physiological reaction to infrasound remains continuous, long after their irritating presence has ceased. The human organism continues to reel under intermittent infrasonic assault for numerous reasons. After less than a five minute exposure to low intensity infrasound of 10 cycles per second, dizziness will last for hours. Infrasound of 12 cycles per second produces severe and long lasting nausea after a brief low intensity exposure. Some have suggested that these infrasounds are only sensed in physiology, being "electrostatic" in nature.
Vibrating manmade structures stimulate the artificial generation of dangerous infrasound. When turns are made at 60 miles per hour, the average car chassis vibrations produce a peak infrasonic emission. Travel sickness can be associated with prolonged infrasonic exposure to any vibrating chassis. Cars, buses, trains, motorcycles, and jets alike each register hazardous intensities of infrasound. Each transportation mode has its characteristic infrasonic pitch, the necessary outcome of mechanical frictions and inertial resistances.
The powerful infrasonic vibrations of airplane chassis absolutely saturate the bodies of pilots. Continually saturated with these infrasonic energies throughout their flight time, pilot reflexes are severely diminished. Military procedure recognizes this factor, and routinely limits flight time. It is known that excess infrasonic exposures endanger pilots and their flight missions. Pilot damaging effects include decrements in vision, speech, intelligence, orientation, equilibrium, ability to accurately discern situations, and make reasonable decisions.
Ultrasound is cyclic sound pressure with a frequency greater than the upper limit of human hearing. Although this limit varies from person to person, it is approximately 20 kilohertz (20,000 hertz) in healthy, young adults and thus, 20 kHz serves as a useful lower limit in describing ultrasound. The production of ultrasound is used in many different fields, typically to penetrate a medium and measure the reflection signature or supply focused energy. The reflection signature can reveal details about the inner structure of the medium. The most well known application of this technique is its use in sonography to produce pictures of fetuses in the human womb. There are a vast number of other applications as well.
The upper frequency limit in humans (approximately 20 kHz) is caused by the middle ear, which acts as a low-pass filter. Ultrasonic hearing can occur if ultrasound is fed directly into the skull bone and reaches the cochlea without passing through the middle ear. Carefully-designed scientific studies have been performed and confirmed what they call the hypersonic effect - that even without consciously hearing it, high-frequency sound can have a measurable effect on the mind.
It is a fact in psycho acoustics that children can hear some high-pitched sounds that older adults cannot hear, because in humans the upper limit pitch of hearing tends to become lower with age. Some animals – such as dogs, cats, dolphins, bats, and mice – have an upper frequency limit that is greater than that of the human ear and thus can hear ultrasound.
Dogs can hear sound at higher frequencies than humans can. A dog whistle exploits this by emitting a high frequency sound to call to a dog. Many dog whistles emit sound in the upper audible range, but some, such as the silent whistle, emit ultrasound at a frequency in the range of 18 kHz to 22 kHz.
Sound waves is a variation in pressure, but what are the different characteristics of a wave? Amplitude, frequency, wavelength, speed, intensity, and loudness, or volume. The peak sounds produced by human speech have frequencies on the order of 100 to 1000 Hz. whereas, the peak sensitivity of human hearing is around 4000 Hz. The frequency of a sound wave is called it pitch. High frequency sounds are said to be "high pitched" or just "high"; low frequency sounds are said to be "low pitched" or just "low". Sounds with frequencies above the range of human hearing are called ultrasound. Sounds with frequencies below the range of human hearing are called infrasound.
Comparing frequency hearing ranges between humans and certain mammals is astounding, as it shows that we (humans) are at the bottom of the "hearing" chain in being able to detect certain frequencies compared to the average mammal.
The average human hearing frequency range is 31 - 17,600 Hz. (hertz). The average dog's hearing frequency range is 67 - 45,000 Hz., with the average cat being the same. Old World primates/apes average hearing frequency range is, get this, 60 - 40,000 Hz. One more small creature, the average insect's average hearing frequency range is 1,000 - 240,000 Hz. (I bring this up for a reason later on). Other then the blue whale and the Asian Elephant, humans are located in the lower hearing range of all type mammals. We are less sensitive to the sounds produced by other mammals and our reaction time would automatically be slower, unless we are totally bombarded with these type wave lengths. This might have a strong bearing on whether we are being affected by either infrasound or ultrasound.
Using the above table, narrows the field down a little. To rehash, infrasound covers sounds beneath the lowest limits of human hearing (16 hertz) down to 0.001 hertz, while ultrasound is cyclic sound pressure with a frequency GREATER than the upper limit of human hearing. Maybe what BF uses is not infrasound but ULTRASOUND. Dogs, cats, cattle, horses, deer, raccoons, opossums, pigs, sheep, rabbits, mice, rats, and various insects RESPOND, with no response, to something that only they can hear, whenever BF is added into the equation. The average domestic dog will respond to something that we cannot hear until that "something" gets within a certain safety zone. Those of us that research BF regularly already know that when BF is very close, or in the immediate area, that INSECT LIFE will cease any type of noise volume abruptly. Could this be because insects can hear this type ultrasound whereas, they cannot hear infrasound (look back above at their hearing frequency range)? Already knowing the hearing frequency range (or levels) of most mammals and already knowing that our (human) range is very limited, I think that the word we need to use in relation to what BF projects in sound would be more of a ultrasound instead of infrasound.
The physical effects would be the same; headaches, nausea, tinnitus (ringing or roaring of the ear), and possible fatigue without hearing loss.
Ultrasound also causes a term called cavitation. This is an area that is created by ultrasonic sound waves, in other words, a cavity, which can either retain "cold" or "hot" spots, which can also describe the invisible "wall" that several have "run" into. How many researchers have described a rapid temperature increase/drop? This can also cause feelings of anxiety, fear, extreme emotional distress, and mental incapacitation in humans.
From my research, I totally believe that BF uses a form of ultrasound, not infrasound, in its daily existence. Other creatures of nature bear this theory out in that they can hear in the ultrasonic frequency range and they readily respond/not-respond to any, unheard by human, sound that BF broadcasts. Not evidence, but actual field research bears this out.
I'll tackle the topic of pheromones later this week as my "peckers" are tired.
DB
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Posted: Tue Apr 8th, 2008 12:24 am |
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Wow, that is quite an explanation. I don't think I've ever seen it explained like this.
Also, a friend or two have explained some of the sensations of cold waves over parts of their bodies. I have listened to some recordings that I could feel thru the speakers and desk, but not really hear in that sense of the word.
And I can assure you that cats can hear the earthquake coming before we feel it. My cat went straight up in the air from a chair and flew upstairs in 2 seconds flat. When she was near the top is when we "felt" the tremor. Astounding! If the bf can feel and also project these sounds what an amazing creature we are dealing with.
I will say for certain, in all the times we've gone to a certain area with thousands of trees, a creek and in the "country" the birds are NOT singing. We usually assume it's because of the feet but we need more time out there to be absolutely sure.
So far I have not had any of the feelings described above but I'm prepared simply because of friends relating their encounters. Thanks for such an indepth explanation.
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Posted: Tue Apr 8th, 2008 12:47 pm |
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Thank you DB for all the additional information. It could be ultrasound instead of infrasound since both create similar effects. I believe the only way we can know for sure is to place ourselves in the situation and monitor it with specialized equiipment. We have technical members on this board, does anyone know what we would need to monitor these effects?
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Posted: Wed Apr 9th, 2008 09:11 pm |
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interesting,indeed
Quote from NWF Magazine
"SILENT SCREAMS AND JUNGLE RUMBLES
Determined to solve the mystery of the whispering gophers, Hare returned to his university, where he borrowed an ultrasonic “bat detector.” Such devices lower high-frequency sounds—such as a bat’s echolocation shrieks—into human range by slowing down their pitch. Back out on the prairie, he pointed the device at emerging gophers as they reacted with visible but noiseless alarm to his presence. Sure enough, these were screams—at frequencies around 48,000 hertz. By contrast, the limits of human hearing reach only half as high, around 20,000 hertz. Hare suspected that he had discovered a “silent” alarm call."
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Thought I'd bump this thread into the present. A very interesting discussion. Should be read by everyone.
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Posted: Tue Aug 12th, 2008 04:35 am |
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Haha, Thanks for posting that Bama. I was referring to the fact that BF may hear and communicate in an ultrasonic frequency which causes the silent effect generated by the surrounding insect life, dogs, domestic animals and wildlife. I never said that BF used this as a weapon, as I don't know this, but using what you posted, if enough boogers (more then two) surrounded a party of researchers, would it be possible that if they concentrated on certain members, speaking in their frequency range, maybe to each other, could it have a mild effect on the researchers? I know of two outings where certain members of the group that was with me, experienced headaches, nauseous, stomach problems, and vertigo-like symptoms, after experiencing a number of BF for a long length of time.
I, personally, have not experienced this effect, but witnessed others that did. I was only stating that BF may use a volume of sound, whether by speech or whatever, that is beyond out hearing range, and having the evidence that I stated, if he did, it had to be in the ultrasonic range, not the infrasonic.
You are the engineer and I'm glad you presented what you did.
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Posted: Tue Aug 12th, 2008 05:25 am |
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Thanks Bama, and you, at one time, said that you didn't know how you could contribute anything. Haha WRONG!
We need your engineering expertise as we ain't nothing but a bunch of Rednecks.
Thanks again, Hoss.
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As in the case of so much that goes on here, I lack the knowledge to contribute to this debate. However, the thing I find very interesting is that I have heard the eggheads state that pheromones don't cross species. The implication then is that, if I heard the scientists correctly and if the big'uns are actually using pheromones to cause an effect on us, then they must be human or near-human.
Just a thought.
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Posted: Tue Aug 12th, 2008 02:45 pm |
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I think that there is another possibility here in addition to infrasound & pheromones, & that is that they can project some kind of "mental message", (for lack of a better name for it.)
In the past 6 months, I have experienced several different occurances that I think might be my hairy friends occasionally messing with my mind. None of this scared me, it seemed to be more in fun, than anything else.
If this is indeed happening, there could be a possibility that they can cause a feeling of fear, peace, confusion, or other emotions by some mental means.
Just a theory.....
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Robroy
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 12:55 am |
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| Korie, like telepathy ?
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Korie
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 01:04 am |
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Well, if the aboriginals can do it.......
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 01:11 am |
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Not doubting just grasping what your saying .And I do believe its possible.I have been married for 18 years and my wife finishes my sentences for me! ain't that sweet?
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